**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 12 18:08:34 2025 Nov 12 18:08:34 * Now talking on #7thsea Nov 12 18:08:37 * logger (logger@my.server.name) has joined Nov 12 19:41:14 * Molly (~u931732@192.168.1.101) has joined Nov 12 19:41:59 I know she’ll only take it as me saying that they’re a burden Nov 12 19:41:59 Do you? Or are you assuming? Nov 12 19:41:59 Mostly the latter Nov 12 19:41:59 Perhaps its time to ask... and assure her that thats not the case Nov 12 19:41:59 Perhaps. Nov 12 19:42:01 Surely its better than the alternative Nov 12 19:42:03 * Heinrich nods “I didn’t realise she was going to draw you into it. I am not happy about that” Nov 12 19:42:05 I can understand that... but its more that I'm observant and, realistically, we are family Nov 12 19:42:07 * Heinrich nods “I still think she’s making a mountain out of a molehill” Nov 12 19:42:09 If she was staring at virile young men even if it upset you, would you think the same? Nov 12 19:42:11 I wouldn’t like it, but I do also appreciate that she will still find other men attractive Nov 12 19:42:13 You wouldn't like it... frankly, Heinrich, I'd go through the fucking roof if Molly did that after I told her how it hurt me... and I think you'd do the same... Nov 12 19:42:19 * Heinrich nods a little “Maybe... it’s hard to imagine how I’d feel, because she’s not that type” Nov 12 19:42:20 I'd suggest you put some thought into it... it might help you understand how fundamentally painful it is for her... Nov 12 19:42:23 She’s explained before, but I don’t really get it. She’s my -wife-. I do -everything- to see they are safe and fed. I’m not looking to swive anyone else. Nov 12 19:42:26 Like I said... spend some time imagining it was the other way around Nov 12 19:42:28 * Heinrich nods “I will try” Nov 12 19:45:16 * Morgan nods Nov 12 19:45:46 I think.. perhaps the best idea is to apologise to her and tell her you'll stop... don't make excuses, don't act like you've been wronged, yeah? Nov 12 19:46:15 right Nov 12 19:46:53 I need one more thing from you... Nov 12 19:48:04 * Molly is now known as Heinrich Nov 12 19:48:06 What? Nov 12 19:48:30 You're going to want to give Rickon an earful... I'd appreciate it if you don't Nov 12 19:51:33 * Heinrich grimaces “What has he done this time?” Nov 12 19:52:10 The three of them were pelting each other with eggs... Nov 12 19:53:10 Where did he get eggs? Nov 12 19:53:33 According to my niece, out of a chickens bum... but -they- got them from the henhouse Nov 12 19:55:11 * Heinrich looks angry Nov 12 19:55:18 So he stole them? Nov 12 19:57:33 * Morgan shrugs Nov 12 19:57:46 A bit of gentle guidance on that would land about right I think Nov 12 19:58:09 he’s difficult to handle Nov 12 19:58:56 He thinks people think he's a bad kid because he's boisterous... Nov 12 20:00:27 he’s not bad, but he’s definitely boisterous Nov 12 20:01:12 He's had a difficult start Nov 12 20:02:01 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 20:02:15 he’s used to running wild Nov 12 20:02:40 No... he's used to having no-one to model the behaviours he should emulate Nov 12 20:03:01 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 20:03:26 I’m trying to fix that Nov 12 20:03:59 * Morgan nods Nov 12 20:04:28 He's had a telling off, and I've spoken to him about being a bit more honest... Nov 12 20:06:09 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 20:06:21 I’ll got easy on him then Nov 12 20:06:57 Maybe use it as an opportunity to help him grow... he was stunned to find out I wasn't anything like the perfect child he thought... Nov 12 20:08:23 * Heinrich smiles “He’s an admirer of yours” Nov 12 20:10:32 Well, he's young, he doesn't know any better Nov 12 20:10:44 * Heinrich laughs Nov 12 20:11:56 Was that all, my Lord? Nov 12 20:13:45 I think so... If you can make things right with Hildegarde, I think we can leave it there... Nov 12 20:17:47 * Heinrich sighs “I don’t want it, but I also don’t want to continue with her getting upset, and if she won’t be reasonable I don’t have much choice, do I?” Nov 12 20:19:33 To be honest, Heinrich, I don't think its unreasonable... and its part of the promise you made her and Theus Nov 12 20:20:52 You really never look at a woman and think she’s attractive? Or look at breasts in a brothel? Nov 12 20:22:37 I've never looked at a woman's breasts in a brothel... and Ive only ever looked at my wife's. Its not that I don't think some women are attractive... I think Hildegarde is beautiful, and she's undoubtedly attractive... but I am not attracted -to- her Nov 12 20:28:24 Even when you were a widower? Nov 12 20:29:19 * Morgan nods Nov 12 20:29:20 Even then Nov 12 20:29:34 Why not? Nov 12 20:29:47 I was far too broken then Nov 12 20:29:56 * Morgan smiles a little Nov 12 20:30:15 Any time you think I'm being unfair or to firm... ask Molly what I was like in Tawstock Nov 12 20:31:23 That’s not like most men Nov 12 20:31:37 * Morgan shrugs Nov 12 20:31:43 Perhaps... Nov 12 20:34:42 That what she wants, fine, I’ll be an absolute saint. Nov 12 20:35:18 Heinrich, you're being childish... why don't you lavish this attention on her... thats what she wants Nov 12 20:36:02 It’s not really the same now she’s in the family way Nov 12 20:36:56 I'm given to understand thats a common issue... whats your issue with it? Nov 12 20:39:34 * Heinrich shrugs “It feels different. It’s tough to explain. Her body has changed, and yeah, that’s what’s supposed to happen, and I’m proud of her, but...” Nov 12 20:41:11 * Morgan watches him for a moment Nov 12 20:41:25 Are you more... protective of her than you were? Like thats replaced some of the desire? Nov 12 20:42:08 Sort of... More like she’s -beautiful- now, rather than -sexy- Nov 12 20:42:52 * Morgan nods Nov 12 20:43:00 I think thats normal Nov 12 20:45:42 * Heinrich nods “I suppose your wife isn’t far behind mine in that then” Nov 12 20:46:34 * Morgan smiles a little Nov 12 20:46:40 Its never been something thats bothered me Nov 12 20:47:10 * Heinrich shrugs a little “I’ll make more effort” Nov 12 20:48:26 Have you considered how the changes make her feel as well? Nov 12 20:48:51 She’s done it before, so it’s not new Nov 12 20:52:12 So, you wouldn't be bothered if I kicked you in the balls? Nov 12 20:53:33 * Heinrich frowns Nov 12 20:53:41 well yes, I would prefer you don’t Nov 12 20:53:53 Why? You'll have felt it before, so its not new... Nov 12 20:56:24 I accept your point Nov 12 20:57:24 * Morgan smiles a little Nov 12 20:58:03 Plus... alongside those changes, you'll have been less expressive... with a wandering eye... while she's going to be very insecure about herself and her desirability for you... Nov 12 20:59:26 * Heinrich nods slowly Nov 12 20:59:54 which would make her behaviour less desirably? Nov 12 21:00:37 Would you put yourself in a place to be rebuffed by someone who is seemingly drawing away from you? Nov 12 21:01:23 No, because that would be foolish Nov 12 21:02:42 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:02:46 I think maybe you get it Nov 12 21:03:25 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:04:03 probably Nov 12 21:05:57 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:06:08 We can probably manage for an hour if you want to spend some time with Hildegarde... Nov 12 21:06:46 She’ll be cooking dinner now, I’ll help with that Nov 12 21:07:42 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:07:45 alright Nov 12 21:08:55 * Heinrich stands up “I do love her, you know?” Nov 12 21:10:57 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:11:14 I think, though, you could do a better job of showing her that... Nov 12 21:11:25 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:11:37 I probably could Nov 12 21:12:06 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:12:36 Don't let this slip from your grasp, Heinrich... I promise you you'll regret it if you do Nov 12 21:12:52 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:13:19 She is a good woman Nov 12 21:14:57 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:14:59 She really is Nov 12 21:16:20 Does she remind you of Dietlinde? Nov 12 21:16:38 Sometimes... particularly the eyes. Nov 12 21:18:12 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:18:25 I noticed that when we went to Otto’s Nov 12 21:19:16 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:19:22 Sometimes I find it difficult Nov 12 21:19:56 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:20:26 She’s conscious of it Nov 12 21:20:41 Oh? Nov 12 21:22:39 She doesn’t want to pain you, or make the Veisgrafin worry Nov 12 21:23:45 She needn't worry about the latter... the former, I'm afraid, is somewhat inevitable... and there's nothing she can do about it, so she may as well not worry at it Nov 12 21:24:35 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:24:44 I will reassure her Nov 12 21:25:01 * Morgan nods Nov 12 21:25:02 Thank you Nov 12 21:26:50 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:27:48 Hildegarde will want to stay to have dinner, but I don’t know if Heinzharold and Inga will still be here Nov 12 21:28:29 Tough to say... I'd really rather not have to bash your heads together Nov 12 21:29:09 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:29:24 I don’t like him, he definitely doesn’t like me Nov 12 21:30:20 You are correct... and I don't care that you don't like each other, but I will not have behaviour like the night before the baptisms... Nov 12 21:30:42 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:31:42 Maybe I’ll find some business to attend that keeps me out of the way Nov 12 21:32:27 I'll find out what the plan is... no point you going if they were planning to eat at their place Nov 12 21:33:33 * Heinrich nods Nov 12 21:33:38 yes, my Lord Nov 12 21:34:13 Go on then... Nov 12 21:35:14 * Heinrich inclines his head and goes Nov 12 21:36:28 * Morgan sips his drink before putting it away Nov 12 21:51:13 * Heinrich has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Nov 12 21:51:43 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)