**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 26 07:55:53 2024 Jan 26 07:55:53 * Morgan (~mads@192.168.1.117) has joined Jan 26 08:56:55 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Jan 26 18:43:22 * Morgan (~mads@192.168.1.117) has joined Jan 26 19:02:46 * Molly (~u931732@192.168.1.127) has joined Jan 26 19:04:02 That I’d like. Maybe even in time she could stay with you, or Edward? Jan 26 19:04:02 * Morgan smiles Jan 26 19:04:02 Undoubtedly Jan 26 19:04:02 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:04:02 Do you have your own plans for an escape to sea? Jan 26 19:04:04 * Morgan shakes his head Jan 26 19:04:08 No... though... Molly suggested I take you home. Jan 26 19:04:10 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:04:12 That would give you a week or more Jan 26 19:04:14 A long time to be away though Jan 26 19:05:01 * Molly nods Jan 26 19:05:05 * Molly is now known as Alice Jan 26 19:05:32 But it won’t get any better once you are waiting for the birth or with a newborn, will it Jan 26 19:05:52 No... it won't Jan 26 19:07:11 I’ll let you go back to your guests Jan 26 19:07:45 * Morgan smiles, looking at the plans Jan 26 19:07:50 I'm happy here for a while longer Jan 26 19:09:28 Are you avoiding them? Jan 26 19:09:58 * Morgan shakes his head Jan 26 19:10:01 Not particularly Jan 26 19:12:36 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:12:52 But they don’t get it like I do? Jan 26 19:14:08 No, they don't. HeinzHarold has never -really- loved it like I do, and Claudia... she'll be off sailing again before long Jan 26 19:14:24 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:15:01 she’ll take Uinise home, won’t she? Jan 26 19:15:07 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:15:10 Then keep on sailing Jan 26 19:15:35 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:16:00 Some people just have to keep moving Jan 26 19:16:27 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:16:56 My father used to enjoy telling people about a time when I was about five or so when I wouldn't willingly get off a ship, clinging to the mast... Jan 26 19:18:46 did you feel like doing that leaving The Rose? Jan 26 19:18:52 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:20:03 It felt -awful- Jan 26 19:20:10 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:20:45 I couldn’t do it Jan 26 19:20:51 No? Jan 26 19:22:18 On Morgan’s Rock I can see and hear the sea every day, and we use the Ketch a couple of times a week to the mainland too Jan 26 19:22:35 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:24:34 Realistically, wherever we settled, it would mean me giving up sailing Jan 26 19:25:39 except Morgan’s Rock or Catterick? Jan 26 19:26:56 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:27:09 I suppose so... mind you, even in Tawstock, I was never going to sail again Jan 26 19:27:40 why? it’s like an ideal place for it Jan 26 19:28:03 I was a servant. I had no place sailing and... I went there to die Jan 26 19:28:14 * Alice nods at this Jan 26 19:28:43 Had you noticed the similarities to Catterick? Jan 26 19:28:56 * Morgan shakes his head Jan 26 19:28:59 Not at all Jan 26 19:30:51 There are though. Myabe it was subconscious Jan 26 19:31:23 * Morgan frowns Jan 26 19:31:32 Like what? Proximity to the coast aside... Jan 26 19:34:45 Very active dock, Lady Catherine’s Manor House is a decent distance from it as is Foxcroft Jan 26 19:34:57 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:35:15 I hadn't noticed. I was still griping about having to leave Avebury Jan 26 19:37:14 What was special there? Jan 26 19:38:08 I had hard work, no-one was terribly interested who I was.. I had a couple of friends. It was peaceful Jan 26 19:38:54 what were you planning to do there? Jan 26 19:39:46 Live quietly, anonymously. Figured maybe I would be allowed that after all I had had taken from me Jan 26 19:42:04 * Alice gets up and refills her glass, offering to do his Jan 26 19:42:12 * Morgan nods, thanking her Jan 26 19:42:33 * Alice sits back down after Jan 26 19:42:46 Wouldn’t you have been lonely after a while though? Jan 26 19:43:13 I had a couple of friends Jan 26 19:46:41 It’s not the same though Jan 26 19:47:00 * Morgan shrugs Jan 26 19:47:20 I'd not long lost the woman I was going to spend forever with. I didn't -want- anyone else Jan 26 19:47:46 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:48:14 good job you ended up in Tawstock, you could have missed Molly altogether Jan 26 19:49:09 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:49:27 Still something of a miracle she had any interest in me Jan 26 19:50:08 * Alice nods Jan 26 19:50:25 Most wouldn’t persist, would they? Jan 26 19:50:58 God no. I was... awful Jan 26 19:51:53 * Alice smiles “People have told me so but that’s just not my experience” Jan 26 19:52:30 Best person to tell you would be Lady Torrington... I had no respect for anyone, and shouted a -lot- Jan 26 19:55:09 Did you shout at Molly too? Jan 26 19:55:23 * Morgan nods Jan 26 19:55:26 At everyone Jan 26 20:00:06 I’d have lost all interest in a man who shouted at me Jan 26 20:00:20 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:00:29 Back then I wouldn't have cared in the slightest Jan 26 20:05:49 You’ve been really lucky with her Jan 26 20:07:10 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:07:12 I know Jan 26 20:10:09 * Alice drinks her whiskey Jan 26 20:10:56 She’s pretty, Edward’s wife Jan 26 20:11:12 Mmhmm... I had a crush on her when I was younger Jan 26 20:13:30 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:13:34 I heard that Jan 26 20:15:47 Oh? Jan 26 20:16:34 It’s surprising your family didn’t arrange a match Jan 26 20:17:13 I imagine that would've been on the cards Jan 26 20:17:33 would you have been happy though? Jan 26 20:18:51 I don't think so... she's not nearly so straight laced as she seems but... she thrives on the courtly aspects of life and I simply do not Jan 26 20:19:37 * Alice nods, sipping her drink Jan 26 20:19:48 She and Edward suit in that Jan 26 20:20:35 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:20:55 Difficult as times are for them at the moment, deep down there is a fierce love for eachother Jan 26 20:22:02 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:22:34 You can see it in how he takes care of her Jan 26 20:23:41 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:23:58 She, on the other hand, is very difficult to get a read on Jan 26 20:24:55 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:25:23 I am just trying to be unobtrusive, I don’t want any trouble Jan 26 20:25:52 I know love Jan 26 20:26:08 But at the same time, I'm not having you excluded Jan 26 20:27:53 If that’s what it takes for now, that’s how it’ll have to be. I understand her being jealous, but I wish she’d understand that it wasn’t anything more than just a brief attraction and mutual satisfaction. I can’t even recall most of it Jan 26 20:28:57 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:29:06 I think she'll get that eventually Jan 26 20:31:36 * Alice shrugs Jan 26 20:31:59 I don’t know. Maybe it’s something people don’t get unless they’ve done it Jan 26 20:32:40 * Morgan shrugs Jan 26 20:32:48 I'm afraid I couldn't say Jan 26 20:35:46 * Alice smiles “No” Jan 26 20:36:08 But thats because I'm saint Morgan of Puritytown Jan 26 20:39:05 * Alice nods “I might have heard that too” Jan 26 20:39:59 * Morgan nods, sipping his whiskey Jan 26 20:40:22 Florrie really did do very well meeting Mina... Jan 26 20:41:36 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:41:51 She’s made a lot of progress since you came along Jan 26 20:43:01 * Morgan smiles a little Jan 26 20:43:05 She's really taken to her father Jan 26 20:45:27 * Alice smiles Jan 26 20:45:32 He’s good with her Jan 26 20:45:50 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:46:19 He's always been good with children Jan 26 20:47:06 He wants many more Jan 26 20:47:33 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:47:59 He did before but... Florrie has rather cemented that desire in him... as she did for me Jan 26 20:48:14 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:48:56 She’s lovely Jan 26 20:49:03 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:49:13 She is. Wilfull... no idea where she might get that from Jan 26 20:50:05 Edward, for sure Jan 26 20:50:13 * Morgan snorts Jan 26 20:51:20 * Alice laughs Jan 26 20:51:30 it’s a bit of both then Jan 26 20:51:42 * Morgan nods a little Jan 26 20:51:47 Thats closer to the truth, yes Jan 26 20:52:57 You’ve got it all to look forward to Jan 26 20:54:18 Sooner than we expected Jan 26 20:54:28 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:54:50 Molly’s already having a nicer pregnancy than I did! Jan 26 20:55:55 * Morgan nods Jan 26 20:56:05 A little queasiness and a lot of tiredness at the beginning Jan 26 20:56:43 I threw up every day for seven months Jan 26 20:57:25 And you're a sailor... Jan 26 20:57:41 * Alice nods Jan 26 20:57:56 It’s worse than seasickness Jan 26 20:59:08 Wouldn't know on either count Jan 26 20:59:33 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:00:49 All the joy of having children without the misery of pregnancy Jan 26 21:01:08 * Morgan shrugs Jan 26 21:01:10 I suppose so Jan 26 21:02:00 I’m glad Molly’s been okay with it Jan 26 21:03:27 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:03:34 She is properly revelling in it now Jan 26 21:04:04 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:04:21 She’s very maternal, isn’t she? Jan 26 21:04:46 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:05:07 Aye. She took to motherhood like a duck to water with Varick, and then Emil Jan 26 21:06:45 If you weren’t wanting more children, wasn’t that difficult with her and Varick? Jan 26 21:07:39 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:08:10 I knew when we married that at some point there would have to be children... and I just hoped that I would at least come to terms with that, if not be enthused by it Jan 26 21:09:25 what, because you were going to be married people and having sex, or because you’re a Veisgraf Jan 26 21:09:36 Because I'm Veisgraf Jan 26 21:10:03 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:10:36 If Florrie made you ready, maybe seeing your own son or daughter would have done it Jan 26 21:11:10 Maybe... but we'd have avoided it as long as possible Jan 26 21:12:15 Did Molly not want them either? Jan 26 21:12:38 She was always treading carefully around the subject, knowing how it affected me Jan 26 21:14:07 But what did she want for herself? Jan 26 21:14:24 She wanted to be a mother Jan 26 21:14:53 was it difficult knowing you weren’t giving her that? Jan 26 21:16:07 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:16:24 Immensely... but I wasn't even doing a good job of showing her how much I loved her Jan 26 21:17:16 You look like a good couple to the rest of the world Jan 26 21:18:10 She nearly died believing that I loved her only 'enough' Jan 26 21:19:23 Did you know that or would you never have known? **she’d written a letter for him that would have made it clear* Jan 26 21:20:14 She wrote a letter for me that would've made it painfully clear how I'd failed to demonstrate the depth of my love for her Jan 26 21:20:46 Where would you have ended up then? Jan 26 21:21:45 God alone knows... she made me promise not to disappear again, for Varick Jan 26 21:22:16 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:22:32 But mentally? Jan 26 21:22:59 I'd have been exceptionally dangerous to know at that point I think Jan 26 21:23:06 * Morgan sips his drink Jan 26 21:23:13 I am aware I can be quite self destructive Jan 26 21:24:12 It’d be difficult to be able to forgive yourself for that Jan 26 21:25:03 Yeah... considering I haven't really forgiven myself for failing to protect Dietlinde and Jana... I suspect that'd be the last straw Jan 26 21:25:40 You couldn’t have seen that com8ng though Jan 26 21:26:14 I should have Jan 26 21:26:26 how could you have? Jan 26 21:27:14 I'm not particularly politically minded but... I didn't even recognise the damage I was doing to the Grafdoms safety... Jan 26 21:28:12 Do you wish you’d just given it all up? Jan 26 21:28:30 I should have... Jan 26 21:29:00 Would you have ever sailed again? Jan 26 21:29:57 Maybe. I might have just picked a fight I couldn't or, more realistically, -wouldn't- have won Jan 26 21:30:32 If you’d given up the title... Jan 26 21:31:02 Oh... Probably not. Maybe but I doubt it Jan 26 21:31:48 Yor late wife didn’t like to sail then? Jan 26 21:32:30 She never left Sudlachenburg. She was happy among her friends and family Jan 26 21:32:55 were you like that when you were younger? Jan 26 21:33:43 * Morgan shrugs Jan 26 21:34:15 I was sent to the academy very young, and then straight to war... but I liked being among my people Jan 26 21:34:43 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:35:18 [my love, is everything well?] Jan 26 21:35:41 [Fine love. Just making sure Alice isn't feeling left out and, realistically, bonding with a sailor] Jan 26 21:36:36 [mmmhmm I miss being bound by a sailor] Jan 26 21:37:01 what do you think should happen next with Florrie and Mina? Jan 26 21:37:56 I'm not sure, actually... I'd like to get them together again but I'm not quite sure how Jan 26 21:38:25 Maybe the three of them should be together Jan 26 21:39:00 That might be an idea... Then of course there's my mother arriving tomorrow Jan 26 21:39:06 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:39:26 You want everything more civil by then Jan 26 21:39:53 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:39:56 Yes, I do Jan 26 21:40:30 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:41:28 Sorry this is causing so much trouble Jan 26 21:41:36 * Morgan shrugs Jan 26 21:41:59 I'm not. They brought their issues on themselves, its time they pretended to be grown ups and dealt with it Jan 26 21:42:46 it’s taking your time and energy when you should be focused on your wife and children Jan 26 21:46:54 Also not your fault Jan 26 21:47:21 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:48:25 I can let them visit Florrie in the nursery tomorrow if you like Jan 26 21:48:35 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:48:56 I'll let Edward know... he can talk to Mina about it... I don't foresee my mother arriving until later in the day Jan 26 21:49:12 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:49:44 Is she likely to resent me for what I did with Edward? Jan 26 21:50:17 I don't think my mother knows what resentment is... she'll likely be a little upset given Florries looks but she's going to adore her Jan 26 21:51:26 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:52:07 alright Jan 26 21:52:54 Imagine a woman raised alongside my uncle... Jan 26 21:53:03 * Alice smiles Jan 26 21:53:10 I like him, he’s quirky Jan 26 21:53:45 * Morgan nods, smiling Jan 26 21:53:58 He's a wonderful man Jan 26 21:54:40 Florrie liked him Jan 26 21:54:45 * Morgan nods Jan 26 21:54:48 I knew she would Jan 26 21:55:20 * Alice nods Jan 26 21:55:30 He likes plants which helps Jan 26 21:55:53 The hothouse, I was absolutely certain she'd like it Jan 26 21:56:19 will you build one? Jan 26 21:56:39 I think so, when I have the time... there's a lot needs building first Jan 26 21:57:23 why not get more workmen in while you’re away and they can’t get under foot? Jan 26 21:58:04 Because there's even more to build than we expected, so even though we're going to get more workmen, the workload is getting higher Jan 26 21:59:27 It takes years to get most estates to where the owner wants it Jan 26 21:59:59 * Morgan nods Jan 26 22:00:15 Aye... we'll have to prioritise Jan 26 22:01:15 * Alice nods Jan 26 22:01:25 what are you trying to get built? Jan 26 22:02:03 Well, if Walder accepts, there'll be housing for him and Theresa, and Elsie and James cottage, and a walled garden Jan 26 22:03:04 why do you need to wall a garden? Unless it’s because of rabbits? Jan 26 22:03:46 After a fashion Jan 26 22:04:51 They can be a nuisance if they get into your veg patch Jan 26 22:05:10 * Morgan nods Jan 26 22:05:12 I imagine so Jan 26 22:05:46 There's some farmable land where we can grow crops off over *he waves vaguely* that way somewhere Jan 26 22:06:09 * Alice nods Jan 26 22:06:24 You’ve got a lot of land Jan 26 22:06:44 * Morgan nods Jan 26 22:06:53 Massive amount of land... didn't really realise it was that big Jan 26 22:07:32 * Alice smiles slightly Jan 26 22:07:50 I’m sure you could grow a lot Jan 26 22:08:17 * Morgan nods Jan 26 22:08:19 No doubt Jan 26 22:26:50 * Alice has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Jan 26 23:09:58 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)