**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 18 09:37:47 2024 Jan 18 09:37:47 * Morgan (~mads@192.168.1.117) has joined Jan 18 09:42:14 * Molly (~u931732@192.168.1.127) has joined Jan 18 09:42:36 I'll do my best Jan 18 09:42:36 I know ya will Jan 18 09:42:36 * HH smiles “Pparently my lil darlin spent every cent of her budget” Jan 18 09:42:36 That does not surprise me in the slightest Jan 18 09:42:36 * HH nods Jan 18 09:42:37 Pparently I get to see it bit by bit over the next week Jan 18 09:42:41 * Morgan nods Jan 18 09:42:43 That'll be nice then Jan 18 09:42:45 * HH nods “yep. light purple last night” Jan 18 09:42:47 Sounds nice Jan 18 09:42:53 * Molly is now known as HH Jan 18 09:43:05 * HH grins “oh yeah” Jan 18 09:44:01 Whatcha got doing today? Jan 18 09:44:26 This morning some time, I'm taking Florrie to meet Mina Jan 18 09:44:46 * HH nods Jan 18 09:44:54 gotta get it over an done with Jan 18 09:45:20 * Morgan nods, sighing Jan 18 09:46:43 You need me? Jan 18 09:47:36 No, I think I got this... lets not put any extra pressure on Mina Jan 18 09:47:41 * HH nods Jan 18 09:48:18 I wanna get on with the building, Lil bird tells me the workmen gettin time off during the baptisms to go back home Jan 18 09:48:36 Its only fair Jan 18 09:48:59 Gets rooms empty that are gonn be needed for guests Jan 18 09:49:14 * Morgan nods Jan 18 09:49:16 yeah Jan 18 09:50:44 Doubt you’ll get any time to join in Jan 18 09:50:57 No, I wouldn't imagine so Jan 18 09:52:14 * HH looks around Jan 18 09:52:22 Here comes trouble Jan 18 09:52:50 * Morgan looks round Jan 18 09:53:14 *Claudia strolls along towards them* hey Jan 18 09:54:54 hey Jan 18 09:55:29 C: I thought you two would still be in bed. Jan 18 09:57:33 * Morgan shakes his head a little Jan 18 09:58:01 Trying to calm the demons in my head... and that bottle of whiskey last night didn't help Jan 18 09:58:35 C: *she looks at him* What’s going on? Molly and the baby alright? Jan 18 09:59:29 Yeah, fine, they're both fine. I spoke with Mina last night and it didn't go as well as I hoped and brought up some ugly truths Jan 18 09:59:47 C: about what? Jan 18 09:59:51 He won’t say Jan 18 09:59:57 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:00:34 C: Explains why I heard raised voices after I got back in then Jan 18 10:00:44 Ah fuck Jan 18 10:02:07 C: Didn’t last long. Uinise found it really strange Jan 18 10:02:20 Oh? Jan 18 10:03:35 C: spouses don’t shout at each other in Capperlucia, it’s not the done thing Jan 18 10:03:43 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:05:06 C: They need to pack it the fuck in before your guests get here Jan 18 10:05:18 I know Jan 18 10:05:33 Send them to Ol’ Mau if they wanna make asses of themselves Jan 18 10:06:16 Its occurred to me... tough to explain away though Jan 18 10:06:41 Not got enough space, and Mau is the Graf? Jan 18 10:07:24 Why would I let others stay but not my own brother? Jan 18 10:07:25 C: Not his worst idea... Jan 18 10:10:36 *he nods* Pretty good for me Jan 18 10:11:34 C: Because they are posher than your other guests Jan 18 10:11:54 But my parents can stay here? And the Eisenfurst... Jan 18 10:12:50 I dunno then, man Jan 18 10:13:17 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:13:26 Me either. Maybe I'll just tell them to pack it in or fuck off Jan 18 10:13:39 C: *she grins* Sounds good to me Jan 18 10:14:10 Me nods, sipping his coffee Jan 18 10:16:39 * HH and Claudia stay with him whilst the sun comes up behind the emerging walls of Heinzharold’s cottage Jan 18 10:17:10 Yer gonna need to find a new spot soon, or you’ll be looking in my windows rather than at the dawn Jan 18 10:17:22 I was just thinking your house is going to be in the way Jan 18 10:17:42 * HH nods “Won’t see the sun, might see a full moon though!” Jan 18 10:18:35 You mean a twig, berries and little bumble... Jan 18 10:19:07 * HH chuckles Jan 18 10:19:25 *Claudia smirks at Morgan briefly* Not if it’s Inga’s full moon. Jan 18 10:20:09 No... Jan 18 10:21:24 * HH grins Jan 18 10:21:32 That’s worth gettin up in the morning for Jan 18 10:22:15 C: I heard you visited Uinise last night, Morgan Jan 18 10:23:08 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:23:11 Hadn't intended to Jan 18 10:23:33 C: She was asking me if I think you’re becoming a pagan Jan 18 10:23:41 Not again Jan 18 10:24:10 Again? Jan 18 10:24:19 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:24:31 *Claudia is also looking at him* Jan 18 10:24:42 Spend enough time in Avebury when you're convinced your god abandoned you, you start to think they might be right Jan 18 10:25:02 Huh. Didn’ know that Jan 18 10:25:42 No... its not something I tell people Jan 18 10:25:51 C: Safer that way Jan 18 10:26:09 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:26:27 If Theus has an issue with it, he can come and tell me Jan 18 10:27:19 * HH chuckles Jan 18 10:27:43 You would shit your trousers if he actually appeared now Jan 18 10:28:05 * Morgan shrugs Jan 18 10:28:21 -or-... I'd be asking pointedly where the fuck He's been Jan 18 10:30:22 C: Sounds like you Jan 18 10:30:27 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:30:28 It does Jan 18 10:31:11 C: I told her clearly not when you’re about to dedicate your sons to Him Jan 18 10:31:20 * Morgan nods Jan 18 10:31:59 C: She said it’s not the same with Emil anyway because he has Capperlucian blood Jan 18 10:32:32 For such a... passive people, they're -really- obnoxious about that Jan 18 10:33:24 *Claudia frowns, looking protective* Jan 18 10:34:32 C: It just means she believes that he has the option of going to their Goddess instead. She’s hardly slating you. Jan 18 10:34:49 * HH watches the two of them, saying nothing Jan 18 10:36:29 It is their belief that he will always be of Capperlucia, and of Tina A-tua Fafine regardless of his baptism, or his upbringing, or his choices, no matter what I bloody do Jan 18 10:37:39 C: So? Why do you care so much what they believe? Jan 18 10:38:14 * Morgan turns to look at her for a moment before walking away Jan 18 10:39:24 * HH says quite loudly “Enough.” He sounds so much like Da. Jan 18 10:39:40 * Morgan sighs, slowing Jan 18 10:41:03 Claudia, he’s not attacking your girlfriend, for fucks sake. Morgan, I get you’re mad and feelin outta control of everything right now, but she’s protecting the woman she cares about, and we’d be the same. Jan 18 10:41:27 I know that, which is why I walked away instead of lamping her Jan 18 10:42:10 C: You can try. Jan 18 10:42:31 * HH looks at her “Go inside, Claudia, okay? Just go.” Jan 18 10:42:43 Don't worry about it. I'm going Jan 18 10:42:48 * Morgan starts walking again Jan 18 10:43:09 * HH catches him up, grabbing his shoulder Jan 18 10:43:20 Hey, now that’s enough. Jan 18 10:44:36 What? I'm taking myself out of it, can't be a fight if I'm not here Jan 18 10:45:58 Bit fucking late for that. You wann take this shit out on someone, we can slug it out ourselves right now. Jan 18 10:46:56 Just leave it alone Jan 18 10:47:43 No, man. Yer clearly mad, you don’t wann be taking this shit in to yer wife and kids Jan 18 10:49:43 * Morgan sighs Jan 18 10:50:03 I don't want to. Jan 18 10:50:12 * HH nods Jan 18 10:51:39 Whatever’s going on, it’s not their fault Jan 18 10:52:04 I'm not going to fight you... or her... Jan 18 10:54:35 * HH shrugs Jan 18 10:54:52 Wouldn’t mind giving you a clock in the chops if it’d help Jan 18 10:54:59 * Morgan shrugs Jan 18 10:55:07 If you feel you need to, I won't stop you Jan 18 10:55:26 Nope, I’m pretty easy Jan 18 10:56:57 * Morgan watches him Jan 18 10:57:03 Then I'm going to go indoors Jan 18 10:57:23 Thought about swimming? Jan 18 10:57:37 no Jan 18 10:57:55 Might be an idea, man Jan 18 10:58:28 Yeah, maybe Jan 18 10:58:48 * HH nods Jan 18 10:59:23 I could go get ya a towel an some dry clothes, being the best friend in t(‘ world, I guess Jan 18 11:00:01 * Morgan shakes his head Jan 18 11:00:05 I can dry this off easy enough Jan 18 11:00:51 * HH shrugs Jan 18 11:01:02 Whatever you want, man Jan 18 11:01:25 * Morgan nods, looking toward Claudia Jan 18 11:01:38 *She’s long gone* Jan 18 11:01:58 Another fucking mess to fix Jan 18 11:02:32 * HH shrugs Jan 18 11:02:45 She’ll get over it, always does Jan 18 11:03:06 * Morgan nods Jan 18 11:03:15 If you see Molly, let her know I'm swimming Jan 18 11:03:37 I’ll go see her Jan 18 11:03:53 * Morgan nods Jan 18 11:03:55 I'll see you later Jan 18 11:04:07 * HH nods, patting his shoulder Jan 18 11:04:30 * Morgan starts walking toward the lake Jan 18 11:07:08 *Ballard walks beside him. The lake looks beautiful* Jan 18 11:07:29 * Morgan gets to the edge before stripping off and wading into the water Jan 18 11:09:23 *The water is cold. Ballard sits watchfully at the edge* Jan 18 11:10:15 * Morgan swims hard, hard enough to tire him physically by the time he gets out, looking round Jan 18 11:11:01 *It’s still quiet* Jan 18 11:11:30 * Morgan concentrates, drying himself before pulling his clothes back on Jan 18 11:11:38 Come on, lets get you back indoors Jan 18 11:12:19 *Ballard goes with him. It’s already almost breakfast time, his time in the lack longer than he expected Jan 18 11:12:23 lake* Jan 18 11:12:52 * Morgan sighs, contemplating skipping breakfast altogether Jan 18 11:13:46 *From the side door he’s gone in by, there’s no staff there to tell him what to do Jan 18 11:14:19 * Morgan goes into his office, closing the door and sitting down, just sitting quietly Jan 18 11:15:27 *Ballard looks around at the barely furnished room for a nice spot, the fire in here not lit Jan 18 11:15:44 * Morgan glances at the fire, concentrating on lighting it Jan 18 11:16:05 *Ballard watches it, head tilting with confusion * Jan 18 11:16:39 * Morgan scoots down to the floor, sitting cross legged to hug the dog Jan 18 11:16:47 Its alright, its just me Jan 18 11:18:57 *Ballard licks his face* Jan 18 11:19:44 * Morgan cuddles the dog Jan 18 11:20:27 *Ballard continues to lick him Jan 18 11:20:54 I'm so tired of having to deal with all this, Bar... Jan 18 11:22:53 *He makes a little woof* Jan 18 11:23:17 Yeah, I know Jan 18 11:26:59 *No one comes to disturb him, and he hears [my love?] a little while later* Jan 18 11:27:17 [yes?] Jan 18 11:27:32 [are you still in the lake? no one has seen you] Jan 18 11:27:54 [No. But since I've fallen out with everyone I've seen so far today, I'm just staying out of the way] Jan 18 11:28:08 [oh. do you wish to be alone?] Jan 18 11:28:28 [I wish things to be easier] Jan 18 11:29:08 [I know, my love. Things are difficult. I would like to see you, but I do not wish to burden you further] Jan 18 11:31:33 * Morgan sighs Jan 18 11:32:01 [alright. I'm in my office] Jan 18 11:32:29 *it takes a few minutes and then there’s a tap at the door* Jan 18 11:32:37 Come in Jan 18 11:32:42 * HH is now known as Molly Jan 18 11:35:32 * Molly comes in. She wears her modified skirt, a new long line bodice of ivory and blue over a blue shirt, the pearl necklace he bought her in Niesfeld shiny on her breast bone. she had some toast and coffee Jan 18 11:35:48 has some* Jan 18 11:36:01 * Morgan strokes the dog before getting up off the floor Jan 18 11:36:37 * Molly puts the items on his desk Jan 18 11:36:54 How did you sleep, my love? Jan 18 11:37:08 Fairly well, I suppose Jan 18 11:37:14 No nightmares? Jan 18 11:37:37 A dream... but its just a carrot dangled in front of a donkey to make it walk Jan 18 11:37:48 * Molly frowns Jan 18 11:37:55 I do not understand Jan 18 11:38:13 A glimpse of a perfect outcome of all of it... Jan 18 11:38:23 * Molly looks surprised Jan 18 11:38:40 An outcome of saving the world, or of this with Mina? Jan 18 11:38:46 The former Jan 18 11:39:03 Oh... *she looks curious* Jan 18 11:40:06 Children and childrens children... but at best its a possibility, not what -will- be. Jan 18 11:42:15 * Molly nods Jan 18 11:42:27 But it is a possibility... we -could- win. Jan 18 11:42:59 Yeah, its possible I suppose... Jan 18 11:43:33 * Molly smiles, putting her hand on her belly Jan 18 11:43:38 Did you see this one? Jan 18 11:43:59 Grown with his own child Jan 18 11:44:15 * Molly smiles warmly “Oh, how lovely” Jan 18 11:44:32 What about... Sena... Jan 18 11:46:07 * Molly nods “We had discussed Merrick Morgan first, followed by Senner Johannes... unless you prefer Senner Morgan now?” Jan 18 11:47:35 Just... the dream, thats all... Emil referred to him as Sen... Jan 18 11:49:29 * Molly nods, smiling Jan 18 11:49:42 That is cute. You saw Emil too? Jan 18 11:49:50 * Morgan nods Jan 18 11:52:47 * Molly smiles “Senner... yes, I really like that. Lord Senner Morgan Koertig, Graf Gottkirchen...” Jan 18 11:53:21 I suppose... Jan 18 11:55:20 * Molly frowns Jan 18 11:55:31 You do not like it. Alright, we will keep thinking Jan 18 11:57:02 No, its just.. I'm still a little... Sudlachenburg... Jan 18 11:57:32 That you do not pick a name until the child is born? Jan 18 11:58:43 No, just that... Sudlachenburg came first.... Jan 18 11:59:23 * Molly nods Jan 18 11:59:42 Something to decide in the months ahead, I think Jan 18 11:59:48 * Morgan nods Jan 18 11:59:49 Indeed Jan 18 12:00:38 what is to happen with Mina and Florrie this morning? Jan 18 12:21:59 * Molly has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Jan 18 13:03:52 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Jan 18 16:58:45 * Molly (~u931732@192.168.1.127) has joined Jan 18 16:59:26 * Morgan (~mads@192.168.1.117) has joined Jan 18 17:00:16 No, its just.. I'm still a little... Sudlachenburg... Jan 18 17:00:16 That you do not pick a name until the child is born? Jan 18 17:00:16 No, just that... Sudlachenburg came first.... Jan 18 17:00:16 * Molly nods Jan 18 17:00:19 Something to decide in the months ahead, I think Jan 18 17:00:21 * Morgan nods Jan 18 17:00:23 Indeed Jan 18 17:00:25 what is to happen with Mina and Florrie this morning? Jan 18 17:04:11 In a little while I'm going to take Florrie to Mina and we'll have a tea party, since Mina can't walk... Jan 18 17:04:39 me nods slightly Jan 18 17:05:04 Alright, I’ll let Frau Arendt know Jan 18 17:05:37 Is that a problem? Jan 18 17:06:50 no, my love, I am just trying to make arrangements for the morning and where the children will be, there are many things that require my attention Jan 18 17:07:10 Things I have not dealt with... Jan 18 17:07:50 Things I can handle, things that have just come up Jan 18 17:07:56 Like? Jan 18 17:08:30 my love, you have enough to deal with yourself Jan 18 17:08:38 I'm just asking... Jan 18 17:08:49 * Molly nods Jan 18 17:11:34 some sleeping arrangements, things being borrowed from Kiev will arrive so, there’s the menus for Wednesday to give the final review to, the now-to-be-a-ballroom to lay out, linens to check for suitably for the beds... it goes on and on *she smiles* And I need to find time to let my dress out for the baptisms Jan 18 17:12:51 Maubourg has offered his assistance in anything else, I think including sleeping space for guests if needs be. Which sleeping arrangements are not to your satisfaction? Jan 18 17:13:17 * Molly sighs Jan 18 17:13:55 Frau Arendt has asked me where we will put your parents if Edward and Mina are now having separate rooms Jan 18 17:14:27 If they can't behave like a proper couple, perhaps they could bugger off to Kiev? Jan 18 17:14:43 * Molly smiles “Tempting... so tempting.” Jan 18 17:15:01 Apparently there were raised voices last night Jan 18 17:15:17 were there? Jan 18 17:15:31 Apparently... Jan 18 17:16:18 I see. I will be speaking to Edward in a minute, so I will ask Jan 18 17:16:41 Let me know... I'd like to know what I'm walking into Jan 18 17:17:22 Alright... *she looks at him a moment* I’ll leave you to your breakfast, my love Jan 18 17:17:47 * Morgan sighs Jan 18 17:17:52 Would you send Claudia to me? Jan 18 17:18:03 I will Jan 18 17:18:51 Thank you... don't forget, we need to decide on someone we're going to shuffle off to sleep elsewhere so my mother and father aren't sharing... so it can be his idea to magnanimously give up the space to make things easier Jan 18 17:19:51 * Molly nods briefly “Frankly, I might just tell him he can just share a room or also go away to Maubourg’s house instead.” Jan 18 17:20:38 If things with he and I were not fraught, I'd agree Jan 18 17:21:30 It seems that is how things are to be everywhere at the moment! A fate witch did not die here whilst I was away did she? Jan 18 17:21:41 I did wonder that this morning Jan 18 17:21:58 Right, I am afraid I must get on Jan 18 17:22:18 * Morgan nods Jan 18 17:22:23 Alright love Jan 18 17:22:53 * Molly nods, gently shutting the door on her way out Jan 18 17:24:45 * Morgan sighs, eating his toast Jan 18 17:25:22 *About ten more minutes pass before Claudia knocks* Jan 18 17:25:28 * Molly is now known as Claudia Jan 18 17:25:43 Come in Jan 18 17:29:06 * Claudia does so Jan 18 17:29:11 You sent for me Jan 18 17:29:24 * Morgan nods, getting up Jan 18 17:30:53 * Claudia watches him. It’s neither hostile nor friendly, just watching Jan 18 17:31:13 * Morgan opens his mouth, but closes it, frowning Jan 18 17:31:31 Its not a proper apology if its qualified by anything... Jan 18 17:35:28 I shouldn’t have been so defensive. Jan 18 17:35:35 * Morgan shakes his head Jan 18 17:36:26 The day you aren't defensive of someone you care deeply for is a day you don't care deeply for them. I didn't -intend- to antagonise you or her, but thats what I ended up doing. I'm sorry. Jan 18 17:36:44 Me too. We good? Jan 18 17:36:53 * Morgan nods Jan 18 17:37:13 If it'd been just us, I'd have clarified something but... its not something HeinzHarold could accept Jan 18 17:38:05 Go on Jan 18 17:39:08 It doesn't matter what they think... Its who your heart belongs to that matters. Jan 18 17:39:48 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:40:59 It’s like an Eisenfurst. You can accept they’re an Eisenfurst, bow to them even, but you aren’t laying down your life for any but your own Jan 18 17:41:17 * Morgan tilts his head before nodding Jan 18 17:41:22 yes... I suppose so... Jan 18 17:42:14 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:42:53 That’s where you are? You believe Tina Atua Fafine is an Eisenfurst, but you already serve a different one? Jan 18 17:43:27 I suppose so... except... its almost like a parent that you don't really want to let down... Jan 18 17:43:39 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:43:59 But sometimes you wonder if you’d be happier being adopted? Jan 18 17:44:06 * Morgan nods Jan 18 17:44:24 Yeah... or if the parent I love is ever going to put in an appearance... Jan 18 17:44:31 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:44:53 Whilst watching the kids down the street be doted on by their Mama? Jan 18 17:45:31 * Morgan nods Jan 18 17:45:50 And adopting a kid and being told 'it doesn't matter what you do, he's always ours' Jan 18 17:46:06 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:46:52 I don’t think she means it like that. More like that he’s always going to be welcomed to their heaven if he wants it Jan 18 17:47:14 It wasn't her... it was Betuana, but on the whole, their attitudes grate on me Jan 18 17:47:38 * Claudia watches him a moment Jan 18 17:47:59 sounds like a little bit of jealousy too Jan 18 17:48:13 * Morgan frowns Jan 18 17:48:16 Could be Jan 18 17:48:19 I''m not sure Jan 18 17:48:26 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:48:53 it’d be easy to understand. want me to ask Uinise not to mention it again? Jan 18 17:49:34 No... I'm not going to limit her freedoms for my comfort... it'd make me a hypocrite Jan 18 17:51:00 Okay. What are you doing down here whilst your wife is running around like a headless chicken? Jan 18 17:51:20 Preparing myself for another onerous task Jan 18 17:52:13 you’ve spent time with Heinzharold, it’s only go8ng to get better from then on! Jan 18 17:52:48 I've got to introduce Florrie to Mina Jan 18 17:54:15 Yeah, alright, equal to Heinzharold singing that shitting song. He’s in the five hundred thousands now. Jan 18 17:54:31 * Morgan nods, going to a cupboard Jan 18 17:54:35 God forbid he ever loses track Jan 18 17:54:48 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:54:50 yup Jan 18 17:55:50 [Would you mind letting me know what the situation with Edward is? And if and when Mina will be ready for Florrie] Jan 18 17:56:02 * Morgan turns back, holding a sword by the blade, holding it out Jan 18 17:56:50 [I’m nearly there, I’ll let you know] Jan 18 17:57:01 * Claudia takes it Jan 18 17:57:17 Be careful with it... its much sharper than it appears Jan 18 17:57:28 * Claudia looks it over, impressed Jan 18 17:57:38 Nice. Jan 18 17:57:45 * Morgan nods Jan 18 17:57:53 HeinzHarold took a chunk out of one of the walls with one Jan 18 17:58:05 * Claudia nods, still admiring it Jan 18 17:58:33 Wanna go out and play, or you busy? Jan 18 17:58:53 Just waiting to find out when Mina will be available Jan 18 17:59:14 * Claudia nods Jan 18 17:59:53 [she’ll be be ready any time] Jan 18 18:00:20 Looks like the time is now... I need to go find out if Florrie is ready Jan 18 18:01:28 * Claudia nods, reluctantly handing it back Jan 18 18:01:37 * Morgan looks confused Jan 18 18:01:41 What are you doing? Jan 18 18:01:58 Giving you your sword because you can’t come out to play Jan 18 18:02:07 Its not mine... Jan 18 18:02:15 whose? Jan 18 18:02:20 Yours you plank Jan 18 18:02:29 * Claudia smiles “you sure?” Jan 18 18:03:01 Managed to persuade our little friends to make one for each of what I'm going to call the save the world gang Jan 18 18:04:05 * Claudia smiles Jan 18 18:04:18 Save the world gang... yeah, I like it Jan 18 18:04:29 Lets hope its an apt name Jan 18 18:04:45 Save-d- the world gang would be better Jan 18 18:04:55 * Morgan nods Jan 18 18:04:59 Yeah... we'll see Jan 18 18:06:23 * Claudia nods Jan 18 18:06:30 I’m going out to play then Jan 18 18:06:36 * Morgan nods Jan 18 18:06:41 Like I said... be careful Jan 18 18:06:46 * Claudia nods Jan 18 18:06:57 Away from the walls, I know. Thanks Jan 18 18:07:19 * Morgan nods, taking a deep breath Jan 18 18:07:23 Time to go find my niece Jan 18 18:07:40 * Claudia nods Jan 18 18:07:43 Good luck Jan 18 18:08:00 * Morgan nods, letting her out before going looking for Alice Jan 18 18:08:08 [did Edward tell you what's happened?] Jan 18 18:11:34 [He wanted to come and comfort her, she wanted to be alone, he got high handed insisting he knew best, she told him to leave her alone. It was louder than it should have been, and I have told him it stops now] Jan 18 18:13:48 He's lucky she didn't tell him to get fucked Jan 18 18:13:50 [] Jan 18 18:14:17 [As amusing as I find that, it’s unlikely!] Jan 18 18:14:33 [Not so much as you might think] Jan 18 18:14:50 *he finds Alice, Molly, Edward, and the children all in the nursery* Jan 18 18:15:34 * Morgan closes his eyes briefly, taking a breath Jan 18 18:17:28 *Emil is the first to notice him, crawling rapidly and pulling up to stand by Morgan’s trousers Jan 18 18:17:50 * Morgan picks him up, kissing his cheek Jan 18 18:17:52 Hello little lamb Jan 18 18:19:56 *Varick and Florrie come to hug him too. Edward and Alice are drinking coffee, Molly looks like she’s not stopping long enough to Jan 18 18:20:23 * Morgan kneels down, hugging them Jan 18 18:20:52 [Whatare your thoughts on telling Alice today about Hirschen?] Jan 18 18:20:56 * Morgan looks at Alice Jan 18 18:20:59 Its time... Jan 18 18:23:00 [later, when we aren’t so damned busy?] Jan 18 18:23:11 *Alice nods* Jan 18 18:23:32 [alright] Jan 18 18:23:45 Florrie.. I wonder if you can help me Jan 18 18:23:56 * Claudia is now known as Florrie Jan 18 18:24:07 Make more apples? Jan 18 18:25:02 No, sweetheart, not yet... Someone I care about isn't feeling very good... do you think we can take the cups and have some tea with her? We'll take your dolly so she can have some too... Jan 18 18:26:33 * Florrie looks unsure Jan 18 18:27:06 A: It’s alright Florrie, Morgan will be with you Jan 18 18:27:23 * Morgan nods Jan 18 18:27:36 And you make the -best- tea parties Jan 18 18:29:38 * Florrie nods “Then make apples?” Jan 18 18:29:49 A little later, yes, if you like Jan 18 18:30:28 I grow more apples and this *she holds out her hand* Jan 18 18:30:50 * Morgan looks at her hand Jan 18 18:31:04 *there’s a blueberry in her hand* Jan 18 18:31:16 Where'd you get that? Jan 18 18:31:36 V: We found them in a glass when we went to pee Jan 18 18:31:50 Oh... yes... Jan 18 18:33:19 I grow bluies Jan 18 18:33:28 * Morgan nods Jan 18 18:33:33 Okay sweetheart Jan 18 18:33:55 *Alice kisses her crown* Be good for Morgan, Florrie Jan 18 18:34:19 okay *she collects her tea set and her doll* Jan 18 18:34:31 * Morgan picks her up Jan 18 18:34:35 Shouldn't imagine we'll be long Jan 18 18:35:02 *Edward is the one who looks most concerned* E: We will wait here for her Jan 18 18:35:24 * Morgan nods, jostling Florrie gently Jan 18 18:35:27 Ready sweetheart? Jan 18 18:35:46 Okay Jan 18 18:36:26 * Morgan nods, carrying her out and towards Mina''s room Jan 18 18:38:49 * Florrie looks around quietly Jan 18 18:38:59 * Morgan knocks on the door Jan 18 18:39:09 * Florrie is now known as Mina Jan 18 18:39:12 Come in Jan 18 18:39:28 * Morgan goes in, closing the door behind him Jan 18 18:41:12 *Mina is stood in the middle of the room. She looks well-dressed and put together, but very formal. The room is clean and tiny, and smells of coffee. Jan 18 18:41:57 Mina... Florrie and I thought we'd bring you a little tea party, help you feel better Jan 18 18:44:16 *Florrie turns into Morgan’s body shyly. Mina nods quietly Jan 18 18:45:57 Florrie, sweetheart, where shall we setup the cups and dolly? Jan 18 18:46:17 *Florrie just shrugs* Jan 18 18:46:34 Okay. Maybe Mina has an idea? Jan 18 18:46:41 * Mina watches the two of them, brown eyes very serious Jan 18 18:46:48 On the table? Jan 18 18:47:08 Shall we put it on the table? Lets give Mina the cups, we'll take the teapot Jan 18 18:47:25 *Florrie does nothing* Jan 18 18:48:02 * Morgan rocks her gently, moving to the table and gently taking the cups and teapot, putting them down Jan 18 18:49:57 * Mina looks at Morgan. She looks very reserved Jan 18 18:50:46 * Morgan puts Dolly on a chair at the table, sitting down with Florrie on his lap Jan 18 18:51:31 Mina, would you be a dear and setup the cups and saucers please Jan 18 18:52:16 * Mina does so, but Florrie still clings to Morgan Jan 18 18:52:46 Oh... oh dear, Dolly isn't drinking her tea... she says she wanted sea water Jan 18 18:53:13 *Florrie mutters something* Jan 18 18:53:39 Hmm? I don't think... Mina, have you got any sea water for Dolly? I didn't bring any from the Rose Jan 18 18:54:04 Ummm... No Jan 18 18:54:37 Ah... I'm sorry Dolly, we don't have any sea water... you'll have to drink the tea I think Jan 18 18:55:04 F: salt. Jan 18 18:55:19 Salt? You can't put that in tea, it'll taste like gravy Jan 18 18:55:28 F: salt. water. Jan 18 18:55:54 hmmm... sea water -is- salty... you think that would work? Putting salt in her water? Jan 18 18:56:02 F: yes. Jan 18 18:56:12 Mina, have you got any salt to put in her water? Jan 18 18:56:20 Yes, I have salt Jan 18 18:57:34 Oh, excellent, would you grab it? But... how much do we put in? Jan 18 18:57:51 *Florrie shrugs* Jan 18 18:58:21 Maybe... half a spoon... Jan 18 18:59:47 *Florrie nods slightly* Jan 18 18:59:53 * Morgan nods Jan 18 19:00:03 Mina, would you mind taking care of that? I'll pour the tea Jan 18 19:00:23 * Mina watches the girl, but is only able to see the back of her head and body Jan 18 19:00:38 I have done that Jan 18 19:01:00 * Morgan makes a show of pouring 'tea' Jan 18 19:01:19 Right then, Dolly, drink... what? Thats too salty? Jan 18 19:01:50 F: take salt out. Jan 18 19:02:05 How do we do that? Jan 18 19:02:15 F: don’t know. Jan 18 19:02:36 hmmm... maybe I'll have to drink it and start again Jan 18 19:03:08 F: okay Jan 18 19:03:26 * Morgan takes the cup, pretending to drink it before making disgusted noises Jan 18 19:03:33 Oooh, no, thats not nice Jan 18 19:03:48 *Florrie chuckles a little* sea water yuck Jan 18 19:04:24 * Morgan splutters, picking up his own cup before making more spluttering noises Jan 18 19:04:30 Dolly! You put salt in my tea! Jan 18 19:05:12 F: No! No salt Ballhead! Jan 18 19:05:28 Oh dear, that wasn't very nice... tasted like chicken gravy Jan 18 19:06:09 F: No gravy. yuck. Jan 18 19:06:27 Do you like gravy, Mina? You can finish my tea if you do Jan 18 19:06:47 I do, but on food, not in a cup Jan 18 19:08:08 Oh... I'll need more tea then Jan 18 19:08:58 * Mina nods. Florrie looks at Morgan’s cup “all gone” Jan 18 19:09:27 Ah, good Jan 18 19:10:04 F: More? Jan 18 19:10:41 More tea please... *he speaks quietly* do you think Mina wants some? Jan 18 19:11:14 *Florrie pushes the tea pot to Morgan “Ballhead do.” Jan 18 19:11:45 * Morgan nods, picking it up then dropping it Jan 18 19:11:50 oh... oh dear Jan 18 19:13:27 F: Ballhead! no break! Jan 18 19:13:53 Nope, no... no its ok... I'm clumsy, maybe you'd better do it Jan 18 19:14:15 *Florrie watches Morgan* Jan 18 19:14:51 Maybe you can show Mina how to do it? Jan 18 19:14:56 Then she can do it next time Jan 18 19:16:32 F: *she shakes her head, curling into him* Jan 18 19:17:03 Okay... maybe Mina can work it out... Jan 18 19:17:54 * Mina reaches over to take it Jan 18 19:17:59 Tea, Morgan? Jan 18 19:18:18 Yes, please... no salt though... Dolly? Okay... Dolly says yes please Jan 18 19:19:11 * Mina goes through this with precision. It’s not like play, it’s like she was brought up with tea parties as a drill for learning perfect noble manners Jan 18 19:19:39 Mmmm, not bad.... Do you want some tea, Florrie? Jan 18 19:19:49 F: okay Jan 18 19:21:16 * Mina makes another. When she stirs it, it is exactly four clockwise turns, and she does not tap the spoon Jan 18 19:21:32 * Morgan picks up the spoon, tapping it Jan 18 19:21:46 * Mina frowns slightly Jan 18 19:21:58 * Morgan watches her, smiling slightly Jan 18 19:22:03 Tastes better like that Jan 18 19:22:33 It is considered rude to tap the spoon Jan 18 19:23:01 In noble circles, maybe... but we're not -in- noble circles... unless Dolly is a queen... is Dolly a queen, Florrie? Jan 18 19:23:11 F: No tap, Ballhead! Jan 18 19:23:33 Thats me told Jan 18 19:24:28 * Mina nods slightly “Quite so. Sugar?” Jan 18 19:24:37 * Morgan pulls a face Jan 18 19:24:49 No no, not for me... Jan 18 19:25:17 Does Dolly take sugar, Morgan? Jan 18 19:25:49 Florrie frowns: No! No Dolly. Aspen! Jan 18 19:26:06 * Mina looks a little surprised by this Jan 18 19:26:41 -thats- her name, thats right... Aspen. Jan 18 19:26:50 Aspen is a type of tree, y'know Jan 18 19:28:07 F: *she looks at him* Ballhead gave name Jan 18 19:28:18 * Morgan nods, kissing her forehead Jan 18 19:28:28 Aye, I did sweetheart Jan 18 19:29:24 * Mina watches them a moment. Though he can’t usually read her micro expressions, he can see this time that she looks pained Jan 18 19:30:09 * Morgan raises his eyebrows questioningly Jan 18 19:30:21 * Mina looks away Jan 18 19:30:38 * Morgan reaches out, folding his fingers around her hand Jan 18 19:30:44 Will Aspen take sugar and milk? Jan 18 19:32:55 *Florrie shies away again* Jan 18 19:34:00 I think she takes bacon in her tea Jan 18 19:34:25 F: No! Arold bacon Jan 18 19:34:52 Oh, yeah, you're right, HeinzHarold has the bacon... but no apples Jan 18 19:35:46 F: No apples Arold. Ballhead apples Jan 18 19:36:11 Thats right... okay, now the teas sorted... Mina, why don't you tell Aspen about your favourite flower Jan 18 19:37:55 My favourite flower is Edelweiss, because it is the middle name my Mother gave me Jan 18 19:38:52 *Florrie looks over at her. Again, Mina’s micro expression is pain Jan 18 19:39:13 Edelweiss strong. Jan 18 19:39:17 F* Jan 18 19:39:34 Is it? What sort of flower is it? Jan 18 19:39:45 F: White one Jan 18 19:40:28 * Morgan nods Jan 18 19:41:21 Does it smell of anything? Jan 18 19:43:42 F: honey, like jasmine Jan 18 19:44:04 huh... I didn't know that Jan 18 19:44:23 I like jasmine too, and honeysuckle Jan 18 19:44:56 F: okay. Jan 18 19:45:17 That'd smell lovely wouldn't it Jan 18 19:45:32 *Florrie nods* I get down. Jan 18 19:45:43 * Morgan nods, letting her down Jan 18 19:46:08 *Florrie starts exploring the room, back to them* Jan 18 19:46:37 * Morgan moves closer to Mina, talking very quietly as he watches Florrie Jan 18 19:46:40 Talk to me Jan 18 19:46:56 * Mina matches his tone Jan 18 19:47:00 She looks like him. Jan 18 19:48:35 I can't say I've noticed... I can barely see past her looking like Jana Jan 18 19:48:46 I never saw Jana Jan 18 19:49:22 She looked just like her, but younger... blue eyes... and I mean -identical-. I cant tell you how painful it was finding her Jan 18 19:50:03 I do not think you need to. *She watches her husband’s daughter investigate their shoes* Jan 18 19:51:05 I don't know. It nearly broke my mind... again Jan 18 19:56:37 * Mina watches Florrie sit to try to get on a pair of Edward’s riding boots Jan 18 19:57:13 I understand a pain at her appearance. Jan 18 19:57:24 * Morgan nods Jan 18 19:58:48 She needs to come to you on her terms... she very much likes flowers and plants and... anything you can grow really Jan 18 19:59:05 Yes, I see. Jan 18 19:59:31 *Florrie tries to stand, but can’t* Jan 18 19:59:53 Do you want some help sweetheart? Are your legs not as long as your Vati's? Jan 18 20:00:11 F: Ballhead help Jan 18 20:00:38 Do you think Mina can help? I'm trying to drink my tea Jan 18 20:02:58 *Florrie looks unsure, then looks at the boots* help? Jan 18 20:03:27 * Morgan looks at Mina Jan 18 20:03:34 Just hold her hand and help her up Jan 18 20:05:30 * Mina stands, and gently offers her hands to Florrie. Florrie takes them, pulling herself up Jan 18 20:05:56 * Morgan watches them quietly Jan 18 20:06:58 * Mina holds them still so she doesn’t fall. Florrie looks down and laughs. She seems to be talking to herself when she says “funny boots” Jan 18 20:07:29 Can you make noise with them? Jan 18 20:07:46 F: how make noise? Jan 18 20:08:08 * Morgan lifts his feet before stamping them back down Jan 18 20:08:39 *Florrie does this. She laughs at the sound* Jan 18 20:08:48 F: Ball head sound Jan 18 20:08:58 * Morgan stamps Jan 18 20:09:30 *Florrie does this too* Jan 18 20:11:39 * Morgan does it again before looking to Mina Jan 18 20:12:01 * Mina is just quietly holding her up Jan 18 20:12:08 Your turn Mina Jan 18 20:12:12 F: More shoe? Jan 18 20:12:52 Oh, uhh.... *she stamps, but it’s still delicate, courtly* Jan 18 20:13:33 F: No stamp! More shoe! Jan 18 20:13:42 Oh... you want different shoes? Jan 18 20:13:51 F: *she nods* Jan 18 20:14:09 Edward has some smart shoes... Jan 18 20:14:22 F: Vati shoes. Jan 18 20:14:59 *hearing her say Vati must be painful for Mina, but she does a good job at not revealing it* Jan 18 20:15:24 What about Mina's shoes? They've got nice heels on them Jan 18 20:17:17 F: Mina shoes? Jan 18 20:17:37 * Mina nods “I have shoes” Jan 18 20:18:11 F: See shoes please. Jan 18 20:18:35 * Mina smiles slightly at the good manners displayed Jan 18 20:19:17 I will get them. Let me help you to sit and remove Edward’s boots Jan 18 20:19:55 *Florrie does so, waiting patiently whilst Mina removes them* Jan 18 20:21:51 Morgan, would you please bring over that footstool and the wrapped bundles from inside the wardrobe? Jan 18 20:22:28 * Morgan nods, bringing the stool then fetching the bundles Jan 18 20:24:10 * Mina sits on the footstool, more dignified than the floor Jan 18 20:24:30 *Florrie watches Morgan* what doing Ballhead? Jan 18 20:24:54 Letting you play with Mina, sweetheart, and keeping Aspen company Jan 18 20:25:07 F: Aspen see shoes Jan 18 20:25:35 * Morgan nods, picking up the doll and bringing it to her Jan 18 20:25:57 * Mina unties each bundle but leaves them so Florrie can open them Jan 18 20:26:16 F: I look shoes please? Jan 18 20:26:33 * Mina nods “May I hold Aspen for you?” Jan 18 20:27:12 *Florrie looks to weigh this up, a common point where she would say No!* Jan 18 20:27:34 * Morgan watches them Jan 18 20:28:24 F: Okay *she hands Aspen over to start on the first bundle. Mina holds the doll as if it were real, looking at it* Jan 18 20:28:36 * Morgan looks a little surprised Jan 18 20:29:04 I have a doll like this. He is called Toby, and I have had him since I was very young Jan 18 20:29:19 F: Where doll? Jan 18 20:30:42 *His Prophets mass dream comes back to him, the children opening presents, and Mina at ease with Florrie, watching her open Mina’s handed-down doll* Jan 18 20:31:33 * Morgan absently sips his 'tea' Jan 18 20:32:42 He is my house at the base of the mountains, where the Edelweiss grows well Jan 18 20:33:27 *Florrie looks at some blue shoes with a heel and sparkly buckles* pretty shoes! Jan 18 20:34:26 Thank you, I have a dress they match to wear to the celebration on Wednesday Jan 18 20:34:49 F: Varick and Eel have church bath. Jan 18 20:35:10 * Mina smiles a little, glancing at Morgan Jan 18 20:35:26 * Morgan smiles Jan 18 20:36:01 [I think Edward will want to see you as soon as you are done] Jan 18 20:36:27 What colour dress do you have for the celebration? Jan 18 20:37:17 [He'll want a debrief I imagine] Jan 18 20:37:22 F: Wear red dress, red shoes Jan 18 20:38:01 * Mina smiles “You will look very smart” Jan 18 20:38:20 F: *she looks to Morgan* what wear, Ballhead? Jan 18 20:41:25 I'm not sure... could be my old uniform... could just be something smart Jan 18 20:43:36 F: I wear shoes please? *Mina smiles again, almost despite herself. she leans down to help Florrie get her feet in* Jan 18 20:43:57 [he is on edge, yes] Jan 18 20:45:15 * Morgan tilts his head a moment, watching them before sending Molly the image of what is happening Jan 18 20:46:27 [that is... surprising] Jan 18 20:46:49 [Its taken work and its slow going] Jan 18 20:47:01 * Mina helps Florrie up again, leaving Aspen on the seat Jan 18 20:47:10 F: Ballhead! I high up! Jan 18 20:47:18 Wow! Aren't you tall! Jan 18 20:47:35 F: *she grins* tall like oak Jan 18 20:47:45 * Morgan smiles Jan 18 20:47:48 Yes sweetheart Jan 18 20:50:34 * Mina and Florrie go through this with each pair of shoes, all different colours to match dresses, and even Mina’s brown walking boots Jan 18 20:51:30 * Morgan watches them quietly for a while Jan 18 20:51:45 Sweetheart, shall we head back to your mama? You can tell her all about the shoes Jan 18 20:52:52 *Florrie nods* Okay Ballhead Jan 18 20:53:16 * Morgan nods, packing uptake tea set Jan 18 20:53:57 * Mina hands Aspen back Jan 18 20:54:07 Thank you for coming to tea Jan 18 20:54:24 *Florrie smiles* okay Jan 18 20:55:00 Maybe Mina would like to do something together another time? Look at some flowers maybe? Jan 18 20:56:20 F: look flowers? Jan 18 20:56:30 * Mina nods Jan 18 20:56:43 I would like to look at flowers, yes Jan 18 20:56:59 Okay, Florrie, got Aspen? Jan 18 20:58:26 *Florrie nods* Jan 18 20:59:03 * Morgan nods, moving and hugging Mina, whispering "I'm so proud of you. Do you want me to come back to talk?" Jan 18 20:59:38 * Mina whispers “No, thank you” Jan 18 20:59:53 * Morgan nods, taking Florries hand Jan 18 20:59:57 Come on then sweetheart Jan 18 21:00:21 *Florrie holds it, going with him* Jan 18 21:00:34 * Morgan leaves the room, taking her back to the nursery Jan 18 21:02:40 *Molly, Edward, Alice, and the two boys are still there. Florrie goes to put Aspen in the doll’s crib* Jan 18 21:02:50 * Mina is now known as Edward Jan 18 21:03:00 * Edward looks to Morgan seriously Jan 18 21:03:09 well? Jan 18 21:03:30 It went well enough Jan 18 21:05:32 M: Why don’t the two of you take Ballard and Varick out for some fresh air? It’s too nice a day to be cooped up inside Jan 18 21:06:19 * Morgan nods Jan 18 21:06:21 Very well Jan 18 21:06:44 *When they try to leave, Emil starts crying* Jan 18 21:07:12 Thats unusual Jan 18 21:07:54 M: Perhaps he missed you? He has asked for you off these past few days. You could have him in the wrap? Jan 18 21:08:02 * Morgan nods Jan 18 21:08:06 Yes, alright... Jan 18 21:09:39 *They get this sorted. By the time they’re out in the sun, it occurs that Emil is starting to get a bit big to be on his front, and it may soon be time to stop, unless he carries h8m on his back as Dietlinde often had Jana* Jan 18 21:11:22 You're getting big, little lamb Jan 18 21:11:43 * Edward walks beside him, hands in his pockets Jan 18 21:11:57 What happened, brother? Jan 18 21:13:24 It went better than I expected, frankly. Florrie was withdrawn to begin with, Mina... well, serious, hurting, courtly... they found a bit of common ground when I asked Mina to pour the tea, then I tapped the spoon on the cup and she told me off... then Florrie did. Jan 18 21:14:57 * Edward nods grimly Jan 18 21:15:09 It is hard to know how much it hurts her Jan 18 21:18:33 I know... by the end of their visit, Mina was helping Florrie put on your boots, Mina's shoes, helping her stand, asking about what she'll wear for the baptism... Jan 18 21:19:25 * Edward nods briefly Jan 18 21:19:55 That is better than I feared Jan 18 21:20:07 * Morgan nods Jan 18 21:20:33 Yes... she was pained, certainly but... I saw a few smiles. She's agreed that next time they can go look at flowers Jan 18 21:25:59 * Edward nods, taking this in in the same sort of way a man would take information brought back from the front line Jan 18 21:26:08 Alright, thank you brother Jan 18 21:26:16 I have hope Jan 18 21:26:21 * Edward nods Jan 18 21:26:24 Indded Jan 18 21:27:01 I understand you fought last night Jan 18 21:28:09 Yes, she refused to see me or let me in Jan 18 21:29:15 * Morgan nods Jan 18 21:33:42 You didn't act like you know best did you? Jan 18 21:35:31 * Edward grimaces Jan 18 21:35:48 I might have, I suppose Jan 18 21:37:27 * Morgan nods Jan 18 21:37:39 Well... that was probably a mistake Jan 18 21:38:46 * Edward just looks at him Jan 18 21:39:27 *Emil settles against Morgan’s chest more, meanwhile Varick plays tag with the dog* Jan 18 21:45:43 Have you considered grovelling? Jan 18 21:46:37 No, but I have considered accepting an apology for her rudeness Jan 18 21:47:01 That would be stupid Jan 18 21:47:34 Why? Would you allow your wife to essentially banish you from your bed chamber? Jan 18 21:48:07 If expressing her anger in such a way allows her to start actually healing, would it be worth it? Jan 18 21:48:53 It is emasculating. Jan 18 21:49:34 Your pride is more important than your marriage? Jan 18 21:51:08 No, but it is very important that my wife listens to me and is obedient Jan 18 21:52:47 I see. You would prefer compliance over cohesion Jan 18 21:54:08 * Edward ‘s jaw ripples Jan 18 21:55:01 So you think I should just accept all the blame and be the one to make all the overtures from her yelling at me and sending me to another room last night then? Jan 18 21:56:23 How often have we had to properly fall out for either of us to be able to come back from that point of antagonism, to be able to accept our part in our problems? Jan 18 21:57:30 That is different, we are brothers Jan 18 21:58:50 How is it different? Jan 18 21:59:51 We are more equal. It s my place to lead and guide my wife Jan 18 22:01:55 Edward... I love you, but you're being pigheaded and stubborn. Look at it from her view... she followed your lead, accepted your request and you lay with any woman you wanted while she waited for you. Your leadership led her to nothing but pain and loneliness, and now you're angry because she won't fall into line... Jan 18 22:02:27 * Edward looks deeply wounded by this Jan 18 22:02:29 I see Jan 18 22:03:56 Would you follow a commander who failed you like that and did not accept that trust in his leadership needed to be built again? That he has learned from his mistakes? That he is -sorry- for them? That he will face into the consequences of them, even if it means sleeping in the damn hallway? Jan 18 22:04:27 My wife told you she does not trust my leadership? Jan 18 22:06:38 No. I inferred it from what she -has- said and having -been- betrayed by a leader before. You cannot expect her to just fall in line... you have to prove you are worthy of it and the first step of that is not trying to push her to do what -you- think is right Jan 18 22:07:56 * Edward frowns very deeply Jan 18 22:08:04 What has she said? Jan 18 22:08:55 Look... she has accepted her part in her getting hurt. You need to do that and do whatever is required to repair it. Swallow your pride Jan 18 22:09:55 I believe I asked a direct question, Morgan. I want to know what was said that has led my own brother to also conclude that I am as much a failure as a leader as the man who had him whipped was. Jan 18 22:11:47 * Morgan sighs before bringing his entire attention to his brother Jan 18 22:13:13 * Edward watches him. He looks angry, but his micro expressions show pain and humiliation Jan 18 22:15:17 You asked her to trust you and you betrayed her. She's angry with you, she's angry with herself. You are strutting around like a wounded peacock, crying woe is me, as much as she is. One of you has to take the first steps in fixing it, and if you're half the leader you claim to be, or a fraction of the leader I know you -can- be, you'll stop preening, get off your damn perch and do whatever is required to get things on track Jan 18 22:17:14 I see. Jan 18 22:17:37 * Morgan grips his shoulder firmly Jan 18 22:18:42 You can fix this. What leadership is shown by going hand on heart, acknowledging you were wrong and doing whatever is required to earn that trust again? Great leadership, thats what. Jan 18 22:20:35 * Edward starts walking again, but says nothing Jan 18 22:21:17 She doesn't entirely blame you... she takes part of it for herself... Jan 18 22:21:31 * Edward only nods slightly Jan 18 22:23:10 A suggestion... acknowledge that you don't fully know the depth of the hurt, the betrayal... to her. Jan 18 22:23:45 It is an option Jan 18 22:24:10 * Morgan puts his hand on Edwards shoulder, turning him to face him Jan 18 22:24:35 * Edward looks at him Jan 18 22:25:36 It will validate a part of her... the part that is angriest. Jan 18 22:26:06 I accept that Jan 18 22:27:22 Accept it to -her-. Remember how much things changed for us when you acknowledged similar for me? That first step to getting where we are now? At odds, certainly, but we are not shying away from eachother, even when its difficult. Jan 18 22:28:28 Yes, yet another time in which I have failed to lead. Jan 18 22:30:15 It wasn't your duty to lead then. It was mine. I failed, and I have accepted that. Stop holding on to this, Edward. We all make mistakes Jan 18 22:31:42 What trait of yours is it that you most value? what is the one that if you discovered your wife felt you were the opposite of that would cut you deepest? Jan 18 22:33:52 I do not understand the depth of your despair here... your hurt... help me understand, so I can do better Jan 18 22:34:45 Since I was a child, I have always been told I am a natural leader, from mother and father, at the Academy, from Dekker. It is a fundamental part of my self. Jan 18 22:35:22 * Morgan nods Jan 18 22:36:18 Alright... now let me ask you something... several somethings... is Dekker a good leader? Father? Kaufmann? Jan 18 22:36:48 Yes, yes, and no. Jan 18 22:37:51 Kaufmann is a bad leader because he is cruel, vain and refuses to admit any mistakes... now tell me, has Dekker ever made a mistake? Father? Jan 18 22:39:04 Dekker, not that I can think of. Father, yes, but I appreciate how complicated it was Jan 18 22:40:24 And has father admitted that mistake, tried to make amends? Jan 18 22:41:22 Yes but not before his failure to lead had lasting consequences. Jan 18 22:41:53 Do you know what your biggest failing is? Jan 18 22:43:29 No Jan 18 22:45:01 Doesn't matter. Yes there are lasting consequences... does that not make his leadership now even better because he has that knowledge, and has accepted his errors and has done what was required make things right? Jan 18 22:45:50 * Edward glances around Jan 18 22:46:43 What if I do not want to go begging cap in hand for my wife to respect and follow me, brother? What if this is a red line for me? Jan 18 22:48:46 Then... you'll have to find another way. Or you won't. Jan 18 22:49:01 * Edward nods Jan 18 22:50:31 Do you -want- to save your marriage? Jan 18 22:51:28 * Edward nods, but it takes him a moment longer than it ought Jan 18 22:53:28 I want the marriage it seemed she intended to have. Jan 18 22:53:31 Are you -sure-? Jan 18 22:54:06 The good one? The happy one? Jan 18 22:55:23 The one where she accepted that Florrie was my daughter and we would have to put the past behind us. The one where she respected me as her husband. Jan 18 22:56:27 You can't walk in a field without opening the gate Jan 18 22:58:01 yes you can, you just climb the fence Jan 18 22:58:49 And I suppose you would rather wade through a river than pay the bridge toll? Jan 18 22:59:36 * Edward looks at him Jan 18 23:00:00 Yes, I love to go in rivers, I do not sink like a stone in water at all. Jan 18 23:01:20 So... my advice is to stop trying to wade through this river, and pay the toll. You may find once you validate her feelings, that you acknowledge that you don't really know the pain and fear you've caused, that the toll is much more affordable than expected Jan 18 23:02:42 She might never trust my leadership like I was led to believe she did. What sort of man am I If even his own wife has no faith in him? Jan 18 23:04:14 She might walk away. I might get killed tomorrow. Eisen might get invaded by Montaigne. Jan 18 23:05:05 * Edward nods Jan 18 23:05:53 I do not relish spending the rest of my life double-guessing myself with the one person I should have surety with. Jan 18 23:06:35 It might take time to repair that damage fully. But look at us... if -we- can get there... Jan 18 23:07:00 possibly Jan 18 23:08:24 Prove you're a leader worth following again, Edward. Acknowledge your mistakes, acknowledge to her that you didn't or don't understand the depth of the hurt you've caused, tell her you want to understand, to make it better and to prove you're worth following. Jan 18 23:09:20 I might Jan 18 23:10:02 * Morgan shrugs Jan 18 23:10:09 Its what Dekker would do. Jan 18 23:31:41 * Edward has quit (Read error: EOF from client)