**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 4 00:44:34 2023 Jul 04 00:44:34 * MollyK has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Jul 04 13:07:50 * Morgan (~mads@192.168.1.117) has joined Jul 04 15:42:01 * MollyK (~igloo@192.168.1.127) has joined Jul 04 15:43:56 * Morgan nods Jul 04 15:44:16 Only because you coaxed me out of that place, by giving me somewhere safe Jul 04 15:45:09 * MollyK squeezes him gently "you won't believe that others could have done the same?" Jul 04 15:46:24 no. Never. Jul 04 15:49:41 Alright, I will just yield Jul 04 15:49:59 * Morgan nods Jul 04 15:50:00 Good Jul 04 15:51:52 I just wish I could keep you safer, protect you from these nightmares Jul 04 15:52:17 I know Jul 04 15:53:41 I would rather have nightmares myself Jul 04 15:54:19 I'm glad you don't Jul 04 15:56:25 I have less to be hurt by Jul 04 15:57:25 Even so. I will not accept your hurting Jul 04 15:59:23 If only it were so simple... Jul 04 16:01:34 * Morgan nods, sighing Jul 04 16:03:07 I miss when you were having the star girl dreams, they were simple... or the ones where you are My father's head groomsman and we are very naughty Jul 04 16:03:47 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:03:51 Aye, I know Jul 04 16:04:41 The other threads you have been seeing lately are painful too, aren't they? Jul 04 16:04:51 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:08:59 Part of me wonders if we should have just given it all up and stayed in Capperlucia Jul 04 16:09:29 No you don't. Jul 04 16:10:53 Yes, I do! Nothing matters as much to me as you! Jul 04 16:12:07 Our children do. The ones we have, and the ones we are yet to meet. Their future relies on us doing what we are called to... I've done my share of hiding away, it doesn't make the problems disappear Jul 04 16:13:21 * MollyK sighs "I just wish for you to be fully, ecstatically happy, and these dreams disrupt that" Jul 04 16:15:35 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:15:37 I know love Jul 04 16:21:26 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:22:00 You will permit me to ask them to try to stop it, even if it means no more dreams? Jul 04 16:22:26 I'll consider it Jul 04 16:23:59 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:24:03 Thank you Jul 04 16:25:02 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:26:10 * MollyK gently kisses his cheek "we are in this together, my love, always." Jul 04 16:26:15 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:26:17 Yes, we are Jul 04 16:28:03 It is our day to speak to your Mother today, will you wish to join us? Jul 04 16:28:34 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:28:37 Yes, I think so Jul 04 16:28:52 Florrie wants to speak with her father soon Jul 04 16:31:32 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:31:51 We will need to arrange that with him. I wonder how Mina is today Jul 04 16:32:16 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:32:20 Sooner she is with child the better Jul 04 16:34:30 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:35:04 They need that together to take the pain down for her. It is sad, but that is how it is for some Jul 04 16:35:16 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:35:18 aye Jul 04 16:37:20 Edward must feel so caught in the middle Jul 04 16:37:35 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:37:37 I feel for him Jul 04 16:41:51 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:42:08 It must be so difficult being pulled between his wife and his daughter Jul 04 16:42:21 * Morgan nods Jul 04 16:42:39 I want to help him but... there's just nothing I can do Jul 04 16:44:31 No, not at all. The only one who can do anything is Mina Jul 04 16:46:26 * Morgan nods, sighing Jul 04 16:47:07 And she isn't ready to try like she needs to, because she is still hurting Jul 04 16:47:31 Then a part of -their- suffering over this is her own doing Jul 04 16:51:33 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:51:50 But it is never as easy as just don't do it, hmm? Jul 04 16:52:14 No. Does she know she's hurting them both? Jul 04 16:54:15 * MollyK nods Jul 04 16:54:21 Yes, I think so Jul 04 16:54:56 * Morgan frowns Jul 04 16:55:01 Then she's being cruel Jul 04 16:56:52 * MollyK sighs Jul 04 16:57:04 It's not that simple, my love Jul 04 16:58:29 Isn't it? Jul 04 17:00:39 No. She is hurting, and it isn't easy to put the pain aside Jul 04 17:01:30 She's exacerbating her own, and causing Edwards... Jul 04 17:03:14 * MollyK nods Jul 04 17:03:49 I know Jul 04 17:05:55 * Morgan sighs Jul 04 17:06:10 They will suffer until she is ready to do something about it Jul 04 17:06:20 * MollyK nods Jul 04 17:06:46 And until they are with child, I fear that will not be easy Jul 04 17:07:13 But they are unlikely to become with child until she changes her behaviour Jul 04 17:09:26 Your brother has a remarkable tolerance for this, and they are not fighting. They are still being very intimate Jul 04 17:10:01 * Morgan scowls Jul 04 17:10:58 What, my love? Jul 04 17:14:17 It frustrates me Jul 04 17:15:21 Because you cannot fix it? Jul 04 17:19:52 Because they could Jul 04 17:21:37 * MollyK nods Jul 04 17:21:46 They have to find their way through this Jul 04 17:22:00 mayb Jul 04 17:25:08 They still love each other, and that is something Jul 04 17:25:33 For how long if she is punishing the both of them like that Jul 04 17:28:00 * MollyK shrugs Jul 04 17:28:06 I don't know, my love Jul 04 17:31:58 I don't want to have to tell her she's being stupid Jul 04 17:32:41 No, that would not be nice Jul 04 17:34:17 I will, though Jul 04 17:46:16 Be nice? Or tell her? *she giggles* Jul 04 17:48:50 You know what I mean Jul 04 17:49:10 I rather don't, actually Jul 04 17:51:00 I'll have that conversation with her, point out that she's being her own worst enemy if I have to Jul 04 17:51:46 * MollyK nods Jul 04 17:52:22 Will you give it another month to see if she becomes with child? Jul 04 17:53:35 I think so Jul 04 17:57:03 And we will pray for them Jul 04 17:57:22 * Morgan nods Jul 04 17:57:24 indeed Jul 04 18:02:08 * MollyK nods "And once they are increasing, and Inga and Heinzharold too, we can concentrate on praying for ourselves, hmm?" Jul 04 18:03:08 I suppose so Jul 04 18:07:15 * MollyK smiles, kissing him softly Jul 04 18:07:23 You already pray for us? Jul 04 18:07:41 When I speak to him... yes Jul 04 18:10:39 You are not on good terms again? Jul 04 18:11:24 Not great Jul 04 18:12:46 * Morgan sighs Jul 04 18:13:30 I have an abundance of faith, I... -know- he's there... so I'm more than a little disappointed in his inattention. I question those with power, and the answers I receive are not encouraging. Jul 04 18:15:51 * MollyK nods "yes, it is perplexing..." Jul 04 18:16:54 I could do with a swim Jul 04 18:21:15 * MollyK nods, smiling Jul 04 18:21:28 I think there's a little water around here somewhere... Jul 04 18:21:52 Not while we're moving... I want to go home, not get left behind Jul 04 18:26:09 Later then? When we weigh anchor? Jul 04 18:26:36 * Morgan nods Jul 04 18:26:37 Maybe Jul 04 18:35:57 Heinzharold might join you? Jul 04 18:36:16 You reckon? Jul 04 18:37:00 * MollyK nods "it wouldn't surprise me" Jul 04 18:38:35 * Morgan nods Jul 04 18:38:39 I'll ask later Jul 04 18:38:53 * MollyK nods Jul 04 18:39:36 Have you been to the Highland Marches before? Jul 04 18:40:34 No, but I've had dealings with some of the traders from there Jul 04 18:42:26 Oh? The ones in skirts? Jul 04 18:42:39 * Morgan nods Jul 04 18:43:05 Kilts, they call them... they're very touchy about it Jul 04 18:44:37 * MollyK smiles Jul 04 18:44:51 I will try to remember that Jul 04 18:46:13 Quickest way to start a fight is to suggest they enjoy crossdressing... Jul 04 18:46:37 * MollyK giggles Jul 04 18:46:56 Best keep Heinzharold on the ship! Jul 04 18:47:44 Don't underestimate the effect of a good fight Jul 04 18:49:36 * MollyK watches him Jul 04 18:49:56 Are you hoping to be someone's bad night, my love? Jul 04 18:50:31 No... just passing comment Jul 04 18:50:37 * MollyK nods Jul 04 18:50:57 Perhaps you'd like to train this afternoon? Jul 04 18:51:52 * Morgan shakes his head Jul 04 18:52:03 Too much to get done Jul 04 18:57:11 Such as, my love? Jul 04 18:57:29 Cribs, chairs and rattles Jul 04 19:00:04 Are you contented doing that? Jul 04 19:02:39 It needs to be done Jul 04 19:03:34 Do you need any help? Maybe we can all pitch in Jul 04 19:04:58 I can manage... HeinzHarold has helped some, but... if the rest of you wish to help I'll find things for you to do Jul 04 19:08:50 * MollyK smiles Jul 04 19:08:56 That'd be nice Jul 04 19:09:28 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:09:39 maybe... painting? Jul 04 19:13:00 * MollyK nods Jul 04 19:13:08 I am sure we can handle that Jul 04 19:14:51 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:14:53 I expect so Jul 04 19:17:00 Shall I leave a note for Edward for tomorrow? Jul 04 19:17:08 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:17:16 Early, let her see her father as soon as possible Jul 04 19:23:17 Edward will be at Church Jul 04 19:23:35 damn... Jul 04 19:27:03 * MollyK nods Jul 04 19:27:17 It is Sunday... will you lead Home Church? Jul 04 19:28:46 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:28:49 It is my duty Jul 04 19:30:22 * MollyK nods Jul 04 19:31:01 Heinzharold would do it, but... Jul 04 19:31:41 but... Jul 04 19:33:44 But he is not the childrens' father Jul 04 19:34:27 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:34:29 Indeed Jul 04 19:36:00 James and Elsie will be with Sorgi. I don't know what Alice and Florrie will do Jul 04 19:36:20 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:36:24 Should probably find out Jul 04 19:38:49 Perhaps Uinise would be interested in seeing what we do? Jul 04 19:40:21 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:40:26 Mention it to her later Jul 04 19:41:11 * MollyK nods Jul 04 19:41:21 If you are comfortable with that Jul 04 19:41:29 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:41:32 I'll manage Jul 04 19:42:48 * MollyK nods Jul 04 19:44:42 I think it will be Tuesday before we get to the main port of Stirling in the Highland Marches, then just two days to Durham Jul 04 19:45:05 * Morgan nods Jul 04 19:46:07 Must remember to ask mother if Christopher is coming back to Eisen with us... I doubt it, but... Jul 04 19:46:47 You want him there though Jul 04 19:48:02 I would like him to be, yes... but he has already done much travelling Jul 04 19:48:18 * MollyK nods Jul 04 19:48:24 Yes Jul 04 20:01:42 We'll see I suppose Jul 04 20:03:54 * MollyK nods, kissing his cheek Jul 04 20:04:07 Your coffee will be getting cold, my love Jul 04 20:05:21 * Morgan nods, picking it up and sipping it Jul 04 20:06:30 * MollyK gets hers, getting comfortable by the window Jul 04 20:06:42 How are you finding having so many people here? Jul 04 20:07:56 * Morgan shrugs Jul 04 20:08:13 Not easy. I had grown accustomed to having my own space Jul 04 20:09:20 * MollyK nods Jul 04 20:09:49 Our study has become an unofficial parlour Jul 04 20:09:57 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:09:59 It has Jul 04 20:12:03 It's not a big space for so many, but more comfortable than the ballroom Jul 04 20:12:44 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:13:00 Its... to be ex[ected I suppose Jul 04 20:14:39 * MollyK nods Jul 04 20:14:56 With all the children it is a warmer space too Jul 04 20:15:14 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:15:35 We are more an extended family than people sailing on the same ship Jul 04 20:15:45 * MollyK nods Jul 04 20:16:41 It's only Uinise that is still so new Jul 04 20:17:08 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:17:11 aye Jul 04 20:19:57 * MollyK smiles Jul 04 20:20:09 You have a great deal of love around you now Jul 04 20:20:41 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:20:44 I do Jul 04 20:23:47 And many children Jul 04 20:25:00 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:25:41 It's a far cry from what I thought my life here would be like when I got the Rose! Jul 04 20:25:49 Is it? Jul 04 20:27:50 * MollyK nods Jul 04 20:28:12 I pictured travelling the world, making a good trade Jul 04 20:28:31 You have rather done that Jul 04 20:30:47 I know. But I did not expect to have you, and family, and children Jul 04 20:31:02 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:33:06 I am very blessed Jul 04 20:33:57 You have worked very hard for what you have Jul 04 20:34:41 * MollyK smiles Jul 04 20:34:57 I have had your faith in me to help me do that Jul 04 20:36:16 I knew you could do it Jul 04 20:39:34 * MollyK blushes, smiling Jul 04 20:39:50 A simple Tawstock farmer's daughter like me? Jul 04 20:40:05 Undoubtedly Jul 04 20:40:27 And now I just have Eisen to woo Jul 04 20:41:00 You've already got an Eisenfurst wrapped around your finger Jul 04 20:41:38 * MollyK nods Jul 04 20:41:46 He is fond of me Jul 04 20:41:57 * Morgan nods Jul 04 20:41:58 Yes, he is Jul 04 20:42:15 Does that trouble you? Jul 04 20:43:47 Not especially, no Jul 04 20:47:33 Good. You know there's no one I'd choose to belong to except you Jul 04 20:51:29 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:03:47 *the rest of the time passes, and he gets set with the mirror after writing a note to Edward whilst Molly gets the boys up and nurses Emil* Jul 04 21:05:54 * Morgan gets comfortable Jul 04 21:06:57 *Verity appears once the four of them are sat by the mirror. She smiles* Jul 04 21:07:01 * MollyK is now known as Verity Jul 04 21:07:30 Look at you all! What a handsome family you are! Jul 04 21:08:14 * Morgan smiles Jul 04 21:08:20 mother Jul 04 21:25:06 How are you all, dear boy? Jul 04 21:29:13 We're well... on our way, four or so days out of Durham now. How are you? Jul 04 21:30:28 * Verity smiles Jul 04 21:31:50 We are well, your Father and David have gone to Innesbruck this morning and will go to Hafenlohr tomorrow. Jul 04 21:31:55 E: Bah! Jul 04 21:32:18 *Molly kisses the baby's cheek, gently bouncing him* Jul 04 21:33:33 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:33:48 Going to need another cottage built in the grounds before long Jul 04 21:35:17 Who for? Jul 04 21:36:10 James and Elsie and Thomas Jul 04 21:36:46 They will live with you? How nice! Jul 04 21:37:42 Elsie doesn't know anyone, and Hafenlohr is close enough to Freiburg and Innesbruck for James to work and see his mother Jul 04 21:38:05 * Verity smiles Jul 04 21:38:34 That is a nice thought, she will have Molly and Inga for company then Jul 04 21:38:44 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:38:54 Elsie has asked me to give her away Jul 04 21:39:18 V: But Vati, we still want her! Jul 04 21:40:12 * Morgan chuckles Jul 04 21:40:33 Its something that a father does for his daughter when she gets married Varick Jul 04 21:41:32 V: But you only have a daughter in heaven Jul 04 21:42:27 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:42:28 I know Jul 04 21:42:44 *he hears Molly draw a sudden breath. Varick doesn't notice it. Verity has that same unshockable sort of look he remembers from his childhood* Jul 04 21:43:05 It is nice that Elsie wants you to stand in for her Father Jul 04 21:43:28 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:43:53 Yes, it is. I tried to follow your guidance and not argue with her about it. Jul 04 21:44:32 * Verity smiles Jul 04 21:44:41 Did that go well? Jul 04 21:45:17 mostly. I'm a little heartsore today, I dreamed of Jana, so things are a bit raw. Jul 04 21:46:05 Oh dear boy, I'm sorry Jul 04 21:46:13 *Varick hugs him* Jul 04 21:46:35 * Morgan cuddles Varick Jul 04 21:46:48 I'll make sure she knows how touched I am to be asked later Jul 04 21:46:57 * Verity nods Jul 04 21:47:04 When is the wedding? Jul 04 21:47:49 Well, once we get back, I'll take them to Innesbruck, then the Banns will need to be read, so that'll take a while Jul 04 21:48:42 * Verity nods Jul 04 21:49:10 It does take some time, doesn't it? Jul 04 21:49:23 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:49:27 [it certainly felt like forever with you and I!] Jul 04 21:51:20 There'll be much for them to arrange in the meantime, so at least they'll be occupied Jul 04 21:52:06 Is there anything you would like me to do? Jul 04 21:52:36 I don't -think- so... Jul 04 21:52:51 * Verity nods Jul 04 21:53:26 Everything is ready now for the baptism, though no one knows of Emil yet Jul 04 21:54:18 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:54:38 Do you know if Uncle Christopher is planning to attend? It is a long journey considering he has not long gotten home... Jul 04 21:56:14 He would like to, but he thought you might need a few weeks before he joined you Jul 04 21:57:34 But he will come? Jul 04 21:57:46 If you want him to, yes Jul 04 21:58:58 * Morgan nods Jul 04 21:59:01 Of course we do Jul 04 21:59:39 Shall I tell him or do you wish to when you're there? Jul 04 21:59:57 I think we'd like to Jul 04 22:00:37 * Verity nods Jul 04 22:01:03 It'll be nice for him to be the first in the family to meet Emil Jul 04 22:05:57 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:06:08 I hope he approves Jul 04 22:07:11 * Verity nods Jul 04 22:07:35 I am sure he will, he loved you and Edward at this age Jul 04 22:08:00 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:09:36 Are You looking forward to showing them around Foxcroft? Jul 04 22:09:47 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:10:11 Aye, I am. And showing the hot house to Florrie of course Jul 04 22:11:34 Have you collected her now? Jul 04 22:12:07 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:12:25 Aye, Alice has been helping Sorgi navigate, since she knows the waters here Jul 04 22:14:32 That's very helpful Jul 04 22:15:24 V: Florrie plays in my room with my toys. Emil plays too, but he tries to eat things Jul 04 22:15:25 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:16:20 * Verity smiles "Morgan used to have the same complaint about Edward, and one day Edward ate a wooden button eye from one of Morgan's teddy bears" Jul 04 22:17:04 Sounds about right Jul 04 22:19:13 V: Uncle Edward has a button in him?! Jul 04 22:19:31 Probably not anymore... Jul 04 22:19:59 No, I was assured by the nursery maids that he does not Jul 04 22:20:37 E: Bah! Jul 04 22:21:13 * Morgan looks at Emil Jul 04 22:21:15 Oh really? Jul 04 22:22:05 *Emil grins at him* Bah! Ooo-Eeee. Bah! Bah-eee Jul 04 22:22:11 * Verity smiles Jul 04 22:22:20 Isn't he darling?! Jul 04 22:22:54 * Morgan watches him for a moment ooo-eee? Jul 04 22:24:09 E: *he looks excited, waving his arm* Jul 04 22:25:41 He's very talkative Jul 04 22:26:40 * Verity smiles Jul 04 22:26:54 That is good, it shows they're bright and contented Jul 04 22:27:28 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:28:37 M: He is very smart, they both are Jul 04 22:29:42 * Morgan nods, sipping his coffee Jul 04 22:30:48 Jarvie is doing very well, she is no longer in confinement Jul 04 22:31:15 I can't imagine she took it very well... Jul 04 22:31:47 No, she hasn't enjoyed it, but she looks healther and more rested for it Jul 04 22:32:53 Will they still be there when we get home? Jul 04 22:33:46 Yes they will Jul 04 22:35:13 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:35:34 good. Not too long after, I'll be coming to Sudlachenberg to speak to Otto and Sascha... Jul 04 22:36:40 * Verity smiles Jul 04 22:36:52 We look forward to having you Jul 04 22:37:49 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:37:59 I'll let you know exactly when it'll be once we're back Jul 04 22:38:52 * Verity nods Jul 04 22:39:16 We'll make sure the Veisgraf Wing has been all aired out and ready Jul 04 22:39:48 Its alright mother, I'll not need that much space, just a room to sleep in Jul 04 22:41:58 It is your home in Sudlachenburg, dear boy Jul 04 22:42:42 Its a lot of work, thats all Jul 04 22:43:57 Nothing is too much trouble for my beloved son Jul 04 22:44:36 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:44:41 Alright then... thank you mother Jul 04 22:45:29 * Verity nods Jul 04 22:47:34 Sascha is well, she already looks like it should be her time Jul 04 22:48:00 Hardly surprising I suppose Jul 04 22:49:38 * Verity nods Jul 04 22:49:59 She is not very tall, and twins take a lot of space Jul 04 22:50:14 She must be as wide as she is tall now, surely Jul 04 22:51:18 * Verity smiles Jul 04 22:51:38 Almost, yes. They are very happy Jul 04 22:54:55 * Morgan nods Jul 04 22:54:56 Good Jul 04 22:55:48 M: Is she resting appropriately? Has Marta seen her? Jul 04 22:56:50 * Verity nods "Marta is going home on Monday but she has been checking on Sascha and she's very happy" Jul 04 22:57:19 M: *she nods* That's good, isn't it, liebling? Jul 04 22:57:54 [did you intend to invite them even though she will be close to her dates?] Jul 04 22:59:02 Its fantastic Jul 04 22:59:06 [yes, I did] Jul 04 22:59:52 It was such a great surprise at their age, and in such poor health before the summer Jul 04 23:00:11 [alright, liebling] Jul 04 23:00:44 * Morgan nods Jul 04 23:01:04 It was quite miraculous, how he recovered so completely Jul 04 23:01:34 * Verity nods Jul 04 23:02:03 I've never seen anything like it Jul 04 23:02:50 * Morgan nods Jul 04 23:02:56 Theus clearly smiled on him Jul 04 23:03:46 To reward him with two babies also. He has been very fortunate Jul 04 23:04:43 * Morgan nods Jul 04 23:04:46 I agree Jul 04 23:07:47 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Jul 04 23:53:06 * Verity has quit (Read error: EOF from client)