**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 9 16:39:19 2022 Dec 09 16:39:19 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Dec 09 16:46:32 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Dec 09 16:49:46 *HH is the first to remark on Morgan's carrying* Figured you'da forgotten how to do that! Dec 09 16:51:19 * Morgan shakes his head Dec 09 16:51:36 No, Not at all... gets to be second nature when you've done it so much Dec 09 16:52:43 I: That looks very cute Dec 09 16:52:50 * MollyK is now known as Varick Dec 09 16:52:58 * Varick comes to look Dec 09 16:53:15 It looks like you have a baby in your tummy, Papa! Dec 09 16:53:51 * Morgan pulls back a little fabric, letting Varick see the baby Dec 09 16:54:04 *he looks at Inga* it makes things so much easier Dec 09 16:54:41 Aww hello little cute baby *Varick is grinning* Dec 09 16:54:54 I: will you teach me one day? Dec 09 16:55:57 If you'd like... Dec 09 16:58:11 I: I would Dec 09 16:58:33 X: in Capperlucia we do that but on the back Dec 09 17:00:24 * Morgan nods Dec 09 17:00:54 My first wife did on occasion... me, I prefer this... pulls on your back a little more but, I prefer the closeness Dec 09 17:02:45 X: I liked to be able to work. Men carry children all the time at home Dec 09 17:03:37 * Morgan nods Dec 09 17:03:57 Its uncommon in Eisen... probably Avalon too Dec 09 17:05:20 X: Men here aren't fathers like in Capperlucia. They confuse being a father with being a patriarch Dec 09 17:06:08 We're... -some- of us, we're both. Dec 09 17:07:56 * Varick is now known as Xsarlac Dec 09 17:08:09 It's very different there Dec 09 17:09:17 * Morgan nods Dec 09 17:09:26 Yes, I'm gathering as much Dec 09 17:11:30 V: Will there be children to play with? Dec 09 17:12:23 * Xsarlac nods "more than you can count. The men generally bring the children to play outside together every day" Dec 09 17:13:00 *Varick looks excitedly at Morgan* Lots of children to play with, Papa! Dec 09 17:13:35 * Morgan nods Dec 09 17:13:39 That'll be fun, won't it Dec 09 17:18:31 Some of the men work, especially for heavy tasks, but many concentrate on their homes, families, and community Dec 09 17:19:47 Its almost a complete reversal of what we're used to... Dec 09 17:20:54 But men are safe from the abuse Theah-main's women get Dec 09 17:21:57 * Morgan smiles slightly Dec 09 17:21:59 Working on that Dec 09 17:24:10 *Amir starts to fuss* Dec 09 17:24:30 I think someone wants his mama Dec 09 17:25:12 *Zareen comes to take him* Dec 09 17:26:43 * Morgan pulls on one of the ties, pulling him out of the sling, handing him over before undoing it all Dec 09 17:27:28 V: could you carry me like that? Dec 09 17:27:58 * Morgan shuffles the wrap round onto his back Dec 09 17:28:10 HeinzHarold, could you lift Varick in please Dec 09 17:31:00 *HH does so, Varick giggling the whole time Dec 09 17:32:10 * Morgan pulls the ends tight, tying them off Dec 09 17:32:12 Comfy? Dec 09 17:34:11 *Varick rests his head on Morgan's shoulder* yes, Papa Dec 09 17:34:32 * Morgan nods, looking at Xsarlac Dec 09 17:35:03 After lunch, one til two, we have quiet time where, unless there's something important, no-one is disturbed... just time to relax... Dec 09 17:37:18 * Xsarlac nods "that's an Eisen custom?" Dec 09 17:38:40 Not at all... my brother, he suggested it after one of my friends, whose arm I cut off in the war, was so keen to impress me, he kept trying to prove he was good at what I'd asked... its rather stuck with us Dec 09 17:39:53 * Xsarlac nods Dec 09 17:40:06 We will follow your lead Dec 09 17:41:01 * Morgan nods Dec 09 17:41:35 I'll need some privacy between three and four today *he looks round* something I need to take care of Dec 09 17:42:23 *HH sniggers quietly* Dec 09 17:43:37 $Shut up. I'm talking to Florrie$ Dec 09 17:44:06 $ok$ Dec 09 17:44:49 * Morgan bounces Varick Dec 09 17:44:57 Shall we take a walk around the deck young man? Dec 09 17:45:34 *Varick laughs* yes! Dec 09 17:46:04 * Morgan nods Dec 09 17:46:08 If you'll excuse us... Dec 09 17:46:24 * Morgan heads out of the room towards the deck Dec 09 17:48:47 * Xsarlac is now known as Varick Dec 09 17:49:00 Don't drop me! Dec 09 17:49:22 * Morgan tests the knots before bouncing him Dec 09 17:49:36 No, we're good... I'm not holding on, see *he holds his hands up* Dec 09 17:51:36 I'm tall now Dec 09 17:55:35 * Morgan nods, getting to the deck Dec 09 20:16:14 * Varick looks around Dec 09 20:17:37 Could you sail the ship like this? Dec 09 20:18:03 In theory... probably not a good idea though Dec 09 20:19:40 *Claudia seems to be on watch* Dec 09 20:19:59 * Morgan wanders over to her, nudging her with Varick Dec 09 20:21:29 *she looks at them* isn't he a bit big for that? Dec 09 20:21:50 Just a bit of fun Dec 09 20:24:05 C: has Heinzharold asked for a turn yet? Dec 09 20:24:30 I'm not carrying him... Inga's asked me to show her when they have baerns though Dec 09 20:26:29 C: why not just use your arms? Dec 09 20:27:11 Because this way you can still -do- things, work... Dec 09 20:28:15 If you had a baby, you could carry it like this -and still fight, Claudia! Dec 09 20:28:29 In theory Dec 09 20:28:44 *Claudia shrugs a little* he has a point I suppose Dec 09 20:29:16 * Morgan nods Dec 09 20:29:46 I spoke to the captain about watches and duties... we're going to discuss it later. You'll be commanding the ship like you wanted Dec 09 20:32:26 * Varick nods Dec 09 20:32:32 * Varick is now known as Claudia Dec 09 20:32:46 Thanks. You going to work a lot? Dec 09 20:33:16 Some, aye... same watches as before, commanding the ship now and then. HeinzHarolds going to take a few more duties this time Dec 09 20:34:23 * Claudia nods Dec 09 20:34:52 There's only so much gossiping and baby talk you can tolerate in a fourteen week voyage Dec 09 20:35:33 * Morgan shrugs Dec 09 20:35:49 I'm going to reread my fathers letters about ruling Dec 09 20:38:21 V: Can you read them to me, Papa? I have to be a Freiarr one day, and maybe a Graf Dec 09 20:38:43 I imagine we can do some of them, yes Dec 09 20:40:29 V: I also have to help Xsarlac teach Mama Thean Dec 09 20:41:09 * Morgan nods Dec 09 20:41:13 That'll be useful Dec 09 20:45:33 V: And Mama will make me do lessons again Dec 09 20:46:06 Well, yes... its important to learn as much as you can... I'll talk with the captain and try to get you some lessons on deck as well, so you know how to sail Dec 09 20:49:42 V: Thank you, Papa Dec 09 20:50:05 * Morgan nods, checking the time Dec 09 20:50:10 You're welcome Varick Dec 09 20:53:53 *it's almost lunchtime * Dec 09 20:54:31 Come on lad, lets get you ready for lunch Dec 09 20:54:51 $Going to speak to Edward and Florrie. Won't be available from 3 til 4$ Dec 09 20:55:41 $no problem$ Dec 09 20:56:05 V: Giddy up, Papa! Dec 09 20:56:26 * Morgan turns, heading back to his cabin to undo the sling Dec 09 20:57:52 *They gather for lunch, Varick then wanting to play on the floor with Amir. The grown ups play cards, and then they realise the children are too quiet Dec 09 20:58:14 * Morgan moves so he can see them Dec 09 21:02:37 * Claudia is now known as Varick Dec 09 21:03:06 * Varick is curled up asleep around the sleeping baby on the blanket on the floor Dec 09 21:05:26 * Morgan leans back, motioning the others to look quietly Dec 09 21:06:38 *they all sneak over, smiles all around* Dec 09 21:07:02 [I think maybe Varick needs to go for his nap?] Dec 09 21:07:19 [I'd say so, yes... since he's already having it...] Dec 09 21:10:21 *Zareen gently picks Amir up, and Varick stirs* Dec 09 21:10:54 * Morgan bends, picking him up gently, speaking quietly Dec 09 21:11:01 Its alright lad, time for a lie down Dec 09 21:13:56 * Varick nods, holding on to Morgan Dec 09 21:14:15 * Morgan carries him through, putting him into bed Dec 09 21:17:28 * Varick doesn't fully wake Dec 09 21:17:59 * Morgan strokes his hair until he is asleep again before heading back out into his study Dec 09 21:18:34 * Varick is now known as Molly Dec 09 21:19:03 * Molly is the only one there, immediately accosting him to kiss him firmly Dec 09 21:19:46 * Morgan makes a noise of surprise Dec 09 21:22:14 * Molly pulls away, blushing Dec 09 21:22:16 Sorry Dec 09 21:22:31 No its... its alright... just caught me off guard Dec 09 21:22:58 * Molly nods, licking her lower lip Dec 09 21:23:09 Alright Dec 09 21:25:22 * Morgan goes to sit by the window Dec 09 21:26:03 * Molly comes to sit beside him Dec 09 21:26:07 That was so sweet Dec 09 21:26:34 What's that? Dec 09 21:29:12 Varick and Amir Dec 09 21:29:30 * Morgan nods Dec 09 21:34:38 He's going to be a wonderful big brother Dec 09 21:35:15 * Molly nods Dec 09 21:35:18 Absolutely Dec 09 21:35:52 I want to get him learning to sail on this trip Dec 09 21:36:29 * Molly nods Dec 09 21:37:05 Perhaps in the afternoons? I was thinking of training if Claudia is available at that time, like we were doing before Dec 09 21:37:39 Providing she is not in command Dec 09 21:41:28 * Molly nods Dec 09 21:41:50 Only if it's no inconvenience. I'll ask Heinzharold if needs be Dec 09 21:50:06 It'd be worth doing that, too... learn from as many as you can Dec 09 21:51:14 * Molly nods Dec 09 21:51:49 Is it nice to be underway at last? Dec 09 21:52:05 * Morgan nods Dec 09 21:52:27 Feeling somewhat surplus to requirements, mind... I'll be doing basically nothing useful once we're there Dec 09 21:54:57 Because you'll be living the roles women are accustomed to? Dec 09 21:56:57 * Morgan snorts Dec 09 21:57:25 You've not noticed I've surrounded myself with women who are doing things that are so very important/ Dec 09 21:57:43 Do you? Dec 09 21:58:42 * Morgan nods Dec 09 21:59:59 Claudia challenges those preconceptions at every turn... my mother guides my father gently, bringing him round to ideas that he isn't necessarily ready to consider, Jarvie is doing something unheard of, a woman discovering as much as she has? Unthinkable... Dec 09 22:00:28 * Molly nods Dec 09 22:00:31 I suppose so Dec 09 22:03:47 * Morgan nods Dec 09 22:06:17 * Molly smiles "we're rather running out of countries for the list, aren't we? Dec 09 22:06:39 * Morgan nods Dec 09 22:06:42 We are indeed Dec 09 22:07:35 I'm not sure what we'll aim for then! Dec 09 22:08:12 Just.. children Dec 09 22:10:57 I shouldn't imagine after the first we'll be in as much of a rush? Dec 09 22:11:53 * Morgan shrugs Dec 09 22:11:56 dunno Dec 09 22:13:03 * Molly shifts, laying her head in his lap Dec 09 22:13:28 You can foresee wanting me with child as soon as I'm churched each time? Dec 09 22:13:39 * Morgan shifts, stroking her hair Dec 09 22:14:06 I don't know really... given the time constraints Dec 09 22:14:28 *it's much easier to fiddle with now that it's not fastened up* Dec 09 22:14:39 The fifteen years before trouble might come? Dec 09 22:14:43 * Morgan nods Dec 09 22:18:03 * Molly sighs Dec 09 22:18:47 I do not want to be so focused on birthing an army that we cannot do this for us, for the enjoyment of having a big family as I wish Dec 09 22:20:39 I know love... I just... I want us to have our family... thats all Dec 09 22:22:40 * Molly nods, smiling Dec 09 22:23:08 I know. Having Amir here is making me even more broody than before Dec 09 22:28:18 * Morgan nods Dec 09 22:28:24 Its a difficult balancing act... Dec 09 22:28:55 In what way? Dec 09 22:29:41 I enjoy having him here... interacting with him, holding him... but it reminds me what I've lost... what I'm waiting for... trying to not let it get to me too much... its hard Dec 09 22:31:52 * Molly nods Dec 09 22:32:03 That's understandable, my love Dec 09 22:32:13 * Morgan nods, sighing Dec 09 22:33:33 It's difficult that I cannot alleviate any of that Dec 09 22:33:52 You would, if you could Dec 09 22:34:48 I would bring her to you if I could, and I would remove all of the effects of the herbs if I could Dec 09 22:35:35 I know love Dec 09 22:36:35 All we can do is be patient and intimate Dec 09 22:37:01 * Morgan nods Dec 09 22:37:02 Aye Dec 09 22:39:39 * Molly smiles Dec 09 22:40:08 A year ago, I thought my future was here, on this ship, alone Dec 09 22:40:41 * Morgan nods Dec 09 22:40:52 Things definitely change Dec 09 22:43:19 * Molly nods Dec 09 22:43:44 So much. But I would have found happiness eventually I think Dec 09 22:43:52 Oh? Dec 09 22:47:17 I think that's something you have to do. Keep looking for happiness even when things do not go as you hope Dec 09 22:47:45 * Morgan shrugs Dec 09 22:48:07 I think if you'd turned me down... there would be nowhere for me to go... I wouldn't have looked any further Dec 09 22:51:08 That would have been a sad waste Dec 09 22:51:17 * Morgan shrugs Dec 09 22:51:20 Perhaps Dec 09 22:52:42 It would. You are a wonderful husband and an amazing lover Dec 09 22:53:09 Only for you Dec 09 22:54:25 * Molly smiles Dec 09 22:54:49 You would not have been such a good lover with anyone else? Dec 09 22:55:05 I would not have been -a- lover with anyone else Dec 09 22:58:27 You do not know you wouldn't have felt that attraction and desire again Dec 09 22:59:37 Yes I do. It took you to bring me out of the pit I was in... it takes you to keep me out of it Dec 09 23:01:46 * Molly watches up at him Dec 09 23:01:52 You think so? Dec 09 23:02:24 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:02:25 I do Dec 09 23:03:32 A good job I do not plan to be anywhere other than right here Dec 09 23:04:00 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:04:02 It is indeed Dec 09 23:06:55 Maybe you should tie me up somewhere, just to be sure? *she smiles* Dec 09 23:11:36 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:11:39 perhaps Dec 09 23:13:18 * Molly watches him Dec 09 23:13:26 Are you out of sorts? Dec 09 23:15:10 A little maybe Dec 09 23:16:21 Because of what we have discussed already? Dec 09 23:17:08 A little... I'm a little concerned that something is wrong for Edward to be keen to speak to me... Dec 09 23:21:29 Perhaps he just misses you? Dec 09 23:21:40 * Morgan shrugs Dec 09 23:21:44 possibly Dec 09 23:23:58 Do you miss him? Dec 09 23:24:07 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:24:11 Unreasonably so Dec 09 23:26:17 Why unreasonably? Dec 09 23:26:42 Given our estrangement, our closeness now is... unexpected Dec 09 23:26:47 unlikely... Dec 09 23:28:43 Yes, but... it's nice. You are close, like Peter and James are Dec 09 23:28:50 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:28:54 Aye Dec 09 23:30:44 It's how I hope our sons will be Dec 09 23:30:49 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:30:51 Me too Dec 09 23:33:07 I think he would have said it was urgent if it was, not just that he was eager Dec 09 23:33:33 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:33:43 He does do understatement quite a lot though Dec 09 23:35:18 * Molly nods Dec 09 23:35:22 That is true Dec 09 23:37:41 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:39:33 * Molly looks thoughtful Dec 09 23:39:48 No... too soon for him to be bringing happy news Dec 09 23:40:00 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:40:25 aye... the thought occurred to me too but,as you say, too soon since her course arrived before the last time we spoke Dec 09 23:41:30 * Molly nods Dec 09 23:42:08 I really hope it's quick for them Dec 09 23:42:17 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:42:18 As do I Dec 09 23:43:55 And Inga... I think I will be getting experience with their newborn before we're near having one Dec 09 23:44:11 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:44:12 Probably Dec 09 23:45:05 * Molly nods, smiling Dec 09 23:45:31 Hafenlohr will be very busy with children a decade from now! Dec 09 23:45:39 * Morgan nods Dec 09 23:45:42 yes... it will Dec 09 23:47:05 Why don't you lie down with me, my love? The closeness usually helps when you are feeling unsettled Dec 09 23:47:26 * Morgan nods, changing his position Dec 09 23:50:32 * Molly moves closer, tucking under his chin Dec 09 23:50:36 How is that? Dec 09 23:50:43 Better Dec 09 23:51:52 * Molly sighs, relaxing Dec 09 23:52:06 Good... this is my favourite place on Theah... Dec 09 23:52:24 The Rose? Dec 09 23:54:56 In your arms, my love Dec 09 23:55:30 Ah... Dec 09 23:57:34 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Dec 09 23:59:25 * Molly has quit (Read error: EOF from client)