**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 8 00:00:29 2022 Dec 08 00:00:29 HeinzHarold told her a while ago she'd never have the nerve to say it to my face... I nearly choked to death on my coffee Dec 08 00:01:15 * Molly giggles Dec 08 00:01:25 Oh dear! Dec 08 00:01:33 * Morgan nods Dec 08 00:01:54 Talked about me and you, and how we're ok... talked about children... Dec 08 00:02:05 What about them? Dec 08 00:03:03 How much she wants them, how she hopes you and she are pregnant together... how it'd be lovely if one of ours married one of theirs, and me and HeinzHarold would be grandfathers to the same child... Dec 08 00:05:18 * Molly smiles Dec 08 00:05:25 That would be sweet Dec 08 00:05:49 * Morgan nods Dec 08 00:06:02 And he does hold a high enough status that no eyebrows would be raised Dec 08 00:06:38 * Molly has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) Dec 08 00:07:28 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Dec 08 12:27:41 * Disconnected () **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 8 12:27:41 2022 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 8 12:27:53 2022 Dec 08 12:27:53 * Now talking on #7thsea Dec 08 13:21:23 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Dec 08 13:50:42 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Dec 08 16:56:42 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Dec 08 19:51:40 * MollyK (~igloo@192.168.1.127) has joined Dec 08 19:52:33 Talked about me and you, and how we're ok... talked about children... Dec 08 19:52:34 What about them? Dec 08 19:52:34 How much she wants them, how she hopes you and she are pregnant together... how it'd be lovely if one of ours married one of theirs, and me and HeinzHarold would be grandfathers to the same child... Dec 08 19:52:34 * Molly smiles Dec 08 19:52:34 That would be sweet Dec 08 19:52:36 * Morgan nods Dec 08 19:52:38 And he does hold a high enough status that no eyebrows would be raised Dec 08 19:54:58 * MollyK nods, holding the baby a little closer Dec 08 19:55:07 Does that trouble you? Dec 08 19:55:34 Why would it? Dec 08 19:56:49 How easily your father made Heinzharold a gentleman, making him able to even wed into the nobility, yet did not do something to elevate Dietlinde's family likewise to smooth it over Dec 08 19:59:01 I... I am aware that, had I forced my fathers hand, he would've done just that. Dec 08 20:00:19 * MollyK nods Dec 08 20:01:11 It would have been different... Dec 08 20:01:24 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:01:26 Yes, it would Dec 08 20:03:09 * MollyK nods, stroking the baby's cheek again Dec 08 20:04:25 That troubles you Dec 08 20:04:45 We are where we are, where the world now needs us to be Dec 08 20:06:28 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:07:48 So... you intend to let me travel, to sail? Dec 08 20:08:12 If that is what you want to do, of course I will Dec 08 20:08:23 Even though it will mean time apart... Dec 08 20:09:48 * MollyK nods Dec 08 20:11:49 I won't be responsible for you looking back and feeling like you were denied something that makes your soul sing. I won't have you wandering the shore of the lake at Hafenlohr pining for somewhere else. Dec 08 20:13:06 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:13:19 Inga suggested they would look after whatever children we have and you could come with me Dec 08 20:14:08 That depends if I am nursing. I will want to utilise wet nurses as little as possible. Dec 08 20:14:37 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:14:38 Aye Dec 08 20:16:23 But if I am not, if they are alright to be left, then I will. No doubt we'd return home with another on the way, if we were alone for several weeks! Dec 08 20:16:57 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:17:00 We can hope Dec 08 20:17:56 That we can go together, or that I'll be pregnant almost constantly? *she smiles* Dec 08 20:19:17 * Morgan smirks Dec 08 20:19:19 yes Dec 08 20:20:39 * MollyK smiles Dec 08 20:21:05 We'd certainly get more sleep if we were leaving the children behind Dec 08 20:21:15 * Morgan shrugs Dec 08 20:21:23 I dunno... I'd spend an awful lot of time on deck Dec 08 20:21:44 I'd get a lot of sleep then! Dec 08 20:21:51 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:22:23 * MollyK looks at the baby Dec 08 20:22:33 Would you like to hold him? Dec 08 20:22:54 Yes but... you are gaining some experience Dec 08 20:24:54 We have six weeks, my love Dec 08 20:26:53 * Morgan nods, getting up and going to her to take the baby Dec 08 20:27:40 * MollyK is careful as she hands him over Dec 08 20:28:38 Would you like to go get the cloth? Just so you can see it... Dec 08 20:29:52 * MollyK nods, going to find it. The baby remains asleep Dec 08 20:32:13 * Morgan rocks the boy, sitting back down in his chair and leaning back Dec 08 20:32:49 * MollyK watches him from the door way a moment, bringing the fabric with her Dec 08 20:34:29 * Morgan smiles slightly, looking down at the boy Dec 08 20:34:54 I miss this... I used to sit by the fire like this... usually getting told off for having my feet on the table Dec 08 20:36:31 * MollyK nods, smiling gently Dec 08 20:36:45 Soon. As soon as I can. Dec 08 20:37:15 I know love Dec 08 20:38:51 * MollyK comes to sit beside him gently Dec 08 20:39:01 What else did you used to do with her? Dec 08 20:39:48 Blow raspberries on her tummy... tickle her.... Sing to her Dec 08 20:41:34 * MollyK nods, watching the baby on his chest Dec 08 20:41:46 That must have been very nice Dec 08 20:42:03 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:42:08 Yes, it was Dec 08 20:43:03 * MollyK nods, leaning her cheek to his arm Dec 08 20:43:21 I look forward to you having that again Dec 08 20:44:04 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:44:07 Me too Dec 08 20:44:27 * MollyK nods slightly Dec 08 20:44:39 You're making such good progress... Dec 08 20:45:31 Howso? Dec 08 20:46:53 Even three months ago, you couldn't have sat like this with a baby Dec 08 20:47:41 No... didn't really have a choice in starting, though Dec 08 20:48:59 No, but thank goodness she came into our lives and helped you with that Dec 08 20:49:42 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:49:47 Painful as its been for all of us Dec 08 20:51:40 It's not been easy, not at all Dec 08 20:51:48 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:53:49 * MollyK sighs "we've had to got through so much heartache, haven't we?" Dec 08 20:54:13 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:54:18 Aye, we have Dec 08 20:54:39 Sometimes it feels unfair, doesn't it? Dec 08 20:54:50 * Morgan smiles slightly Dec 08 20:54:51 intensely Dec 08 20:55:14 Not you losing them... that -is- of course very unfair... Dec 08 20:55:47 * Morgan nods Dec 08 20:57:27 But us, how hard this has all been Dec 08 20:57:54 * Morgan nods, looking down at the boy Dec 08 20:57:57 aye Dec 08 20:59:56 * MollyK gently strokes Morgan's arm "I'm sorry, I'm upsetting you?" Dec 08 21:00:08 No.... No I'm alright Dec 08 21:01:07 You do not sounds sure... Dec 08 21:01:18 Its not easy, thats all Dec 08 21:01:30 The conversation, or holding him? Dec 08 21:02:23 The conversation... holding him is... challenging, but enjoyable. Dec 08 21:04:25 We don't need to talk about it. As you said before, the highs are very high, the lows are very low. We are making it work, and will continue to do so Dec 08 21:04:58 Its fine Dec 08 21:07:44 * MollyK nods. The baby fidgets a little Dec 08 21:07:55 What else did you and Inga discuss? Dec 08 21:08:23 * Morgan shrugs Dec 08 21:08:28 How she and I are the quiet spouses Dec 08 21:08:41 Are you? Dec 08 21:10:15 apparently... You and HeinzHarold, you're outgoing, confident, engaging... she and I, we... hang back, in my case, I watch Dec 08 21:10:43 * MollyK shrugs a little Dec 08 21:10:54 I do not think of myself that way at all Dec 08 21:12:58 * Morgan shrugs Dec 08 21:13:09 I disagree Dec 08 21:13:53 A wise man once told me to square my shoulders, raise my chin, and bluff my way through these things with bravado Dec 08 21:14:51 * Morgan frowns Dec 08 21:14:56 Sounds vaguely familiar Dec 08 21:39:21 I should imagine it does! Dec 08 21:39:55 * Morgan smiles slightly, shifting Amir to a more comfortable position Dec 08 21:40:04 I do my best to be a good Veisgrafin to you, to make you proud of me in public Dec 08 21:41:33 * Morgan nods Dec 08 21:41:39 You are a wonderful Veisgrafin Dec 08 21:44:32 You think so? Dec 08 21:44:38 * Morgan nods Dec 08 21:44:41 So does everyone else Dec 08 21:46:46 I am pleased by that. I worried so much that I would be unsuited because of my background Dec 08 21:48:28 You are kind... thats a place to start that most in power do not have... and you've very quickly grasped the less... desirable side of rule, the politicking Dec 08 21:50:18 * MollyK nods thoughtfully Dec 08 21:50:42 I suppose so. I just wanted you to feel that you had made a good choice in me Dec 08 21:50:52 I already knew that Dec 08 21:52:36 Did you? Before you asked me to marry you? Dec 08 21:53:23 I think so... I don't see me asking someone to marry me if I'm not always proud of who they are Dec 08 21:55:09 No... but... Dec 08 21:56:00 But... Dec 08 21:56:02 You might have wanted to wed me -despite- that I might not be suited to being Veisgrafin Dec 08 21:56:32 The qualities involved with one are the qualities involved in the other... Dec 08 21:58:31 * MollyK shrugs a little Dec 08 21:59:20 I suppose so, my love. *Amir wakes with a yawn, lifting his head to look at Morgan* Dec 08 21:59:41 Hello little man Dec 08 22:02:21 *He tries to grab Morgan's beard* Dec 08 22:03:00 Really? Its such an enticing thing to play with? Dec 08 22:04:24 *Amir smiles, babbling as it pulls at it* Dec 08 22:04:54 Mmhmm, well, thats hardly surprising, given how small you are, is it? Dec 08 22:04:58 Should I find Zareen and say he is awake? Dec 08 22:06:30 * Morgan nods Dec 08 22:06:32 Probably best Dec 08 22:06:48 Do you want me to just take him? Dec 08 22:07:25 He's quite happy yanking on my beard, so... leave him with me? Dec 08 22:09:40 If you wish Dec 08 22:09:56 * Morgan nods Dec 08 22:10:01 Unless you'd prefer to take him Dec 08 22:10:17 No, it's fine... oh, the cloth... Dec 08 22:10:23 * MollyK has a look at it Dec 08 22:10:48 If you ask Zareen if she minds, I'll show you how to use it Dec 08 22:11:34 I'll ask Dec 08 22:11:50 * MollyK puts it aside gently before leaving the room Dec 08 22:12:36 * Morgan bounces the boy, playing with him while he waits Dec 08 22:13:04 * MollyK comes back Dec 08 22:13:35 She is fine with that. I think she's very used to other people taking care of him because that is how it was at the palace Dec 08 22:14:06 * Morgan nods, getting up and moving into the bedroom, taking the cloth with him Dec 08 22:14:20 Do I wait here? Dec 08 22:14:51 No no, come with me Dec 08 22:15:16 * MollyK smiles Dec 08 22:15:52 Normally when you invite me to the bedroom in the day it isn't with a very small chaperone! Dec 08 22:15:58 * MollyK follows him Dec 08 22:16:45 No... Dec 08 22:18:22 * Morgan puts Amir in the middle of the bed, before wrapping the cloth around himself in a loop, almost like a small hammock hanging from his shoulder Dec 08 22:18:43 * MollyK watches him Dec 08 22:19:08 See, now, -this- way is fairly common... makes it easy to nurse as well while still being mobile Dec 08 22:19:20 * Morgan picks Amir back up, putting him in the wrap Dec 08 22:19:39 This you did a lot? Dec 08 22:19:45 Not this one, no Dec 08 22:19:55 But it is the easy one Dec 08 22:21:02 * MollyK nods Dec 08 22:21:09 Alright... Dec 08 22:22:44 Want to try it then I'll show you the way I used to carry Jana? Dec 08 22:25:14 * MollyK nods. She concentrates hard, but doesn't get it right. She looks a little disheartened Dec 08 22:25:21 I am not a natural at this Dec 08 22:25:40 No-one is to start with love... Dec 08 22:25:52 * Morgan holds the boy in one arm as he helps her get it right Dec 08 22:28:35 * MollyK nods, chewing her lip Dec 08 22:28:40 Is that better? Dec 08 22:29:03 * Morgan looks it over Dec 08 22:29:11 Yeah... thats it Dec 08 22:29:33 * Morgan checks the knots before putting Amir in the sling Dec 08 22:29:39 See what I mean about being able to nurse? Dec 08 22:31:17 * MollyK looks down, nodding Dec 08 22:31:23 Yes, I see... Dec 08 22:31:47 One of the women in Sudlachenburg taught us how to do that Dec 08 22:33:56 * MollyK nods again Dec 08 22:34:07 It seems practical Dec 08 22:34:24 * Morgan nods Dec 08 22:34:32 Feel how its weighing most on the one shoulder? Dec 08 22:35:16 * MollyK nods Dec 08 22:35:21 I do Dec 08 22:35:32 * Morgan nods, lifting Amir out of the sling Dec 08 22:35:42 Alright, undo it and I'll show you the way I carried her Dec 08 22:37:01 * MollyK nods, doing so Dec 08 22:38:43 * Morgan hands Amir to her before starting to wrap the fabric around himself and over his shoulders, before holding his arms out for Amir Dec 08 22:39:10 * MollyK hands him over Dec 08 22:40:21 * Morgan puts him within the fabric, pulling on the ends and tying them, supporting the boy in the fabric Dec 08 22:41:20 * MollyK alternates between looking it over and watching his expression Dec 08 22:41:47 * Morgan looks quiet serious, speaking quietly Dec 08 22:41:51 Been a while Dec 08 22:42:29 * MollyK nods "are you alright?" Dec 08 22:42:44 * Morgan draws a deep breath, nodding Dec 08 22:42:54 * MollyK takes his hand Dec 08 22:43:06 Sit. It's alright to not be alright Dec 08 22:44:13 * Morgan sits on the corner of the bed, putting a hand to Amir's back Dec 08 22:45:48 * MollyK sits beside him, still holding his hand Dec 08 22:48:36 'M alright Dec 08 22:49:21 Just memories? Dec 08 22:49:38 * Morgan nods Dec 08 22:49:45 Just a bit difficult. Dec 08 22:50:04 * MollyK nods Dec 08 22:50:44 Thank you for showing me. It looks like it would make it easy to do things Dec 08 22:52:04 * Morgan nods Dec 08 22:52:06 It does Dec 08 22:53:03 * MollyK nods Dec 08 22:53:14 How young can it be done from? Dec 08 22:54:07 As young as you want... turn the bottom up a few times, you can carry a newborn Dec 08 22:55:32 * MollyK smiles Dec 08 22:55:44 Will you do that with our son or daughter? Dec 08 22:56:43 I intend to Dec 08 22:57:37 * MollyK nods Dec 08 22:58:15 I suppose there must be things you did before you wish to do again, and things you didn't that you wish you had? Dec 08 22:58:26 * Morgan nods Dec 08 22:58:34 Lots of things I want to do again, yes... Dec 08 22:58:52 What else, my love? Dec 08 22:59:07 It'll sound stupid... Dec 08 22:59:15 I'm sure it wont Dec 08 23:00:59 Jana and I used to tend the flowers together Dec 08 23:01:35 That's not stupid, that is beautiful... and must be so hard with Florrie's love of plants Dec 08 23:01:53 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:02:01 Its not the easiest thing, np Dec 08 23:02:50 We will make a special garden at Hafenlohr, one that is easy to be crawled upon, and easy for toddlers to move around Dec 08 23:03:09 * Morgan nods, looking down at Amir Dec 08 23:03:31 *the child looks very happy and comfortable* Dec 08 23:04:47 I want you to have all the opportunities in the world to honour her through how you parent the next ones Dec 08 23:05:03 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:06:25 We had chickens... nice ones, really tame. Could pick one up and cuddle it and it wouldn't mind at all... which was just as well, considering Dec 08 23:06:40 * MollyK smiles Dec 08 23:06:45 She liked them? Dec 08 23:06:53 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:07:14 One of them was constantly trying to swallow her finger whole... another one was frequently dragged along by its neck Dec 08 23:07:53 * MollyK giggles Dec 08 23:08:00 It sounds very entertaining Dec 08 23:08:52 * Morgan nods constantly having to rebuild a little fence... the main one reached my waist, and Jana wanted one that reached hers... as she got bigger, I kept having to make it taller Dec 08 23:09:16 * MollyK smiles Dec 08 23:09:25 That's so sweet Dec 08 23:11:06 * Morgan smiles, still looking down at the boy Dec 08 23:11:16 Aye... aye it was Dec 08 23:12:55 Maybe in the children's garden you could build a small fence, and you could tell them about their sister Dec 08 23:13:18 * Morgan sighs Dec 08 23:13:19 Maybe Dec 08 23:13:36 You would not wish to? Dec 08 23:13:58 A little tough to think about Dec 08 23:14:07 * MollyK nods Dec 08 23:15:03 We have time... much more than a year Dec 08 23:15:20 How do you mean? Dec 08 23:17:00 Even in the best case scenario, it would be into next spring before I have a baby. You will not need a children's garden until they are Amir's age Dec 08 23:17:50 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:17:52 I suppose not Dec 08 23:19:04 If we weren't at sea, I think it would be very tempting to adopt Dec 08 23:19:57 Why? Dec 08 23:20:15 Because babies are irresistible Dec 08 23:20:47 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:20:51 They are somewhat Dec 08 23:21:07 And it seems so long to wait Dec 08 23:21:43 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:21:46 Yes, it does Dec 08 23:23:03 Still, we have an adventure to go on, and nothing will speed the process along. We can only hope that we are lucky and my body will return to normal after the usual three months Dec 08 23:24:02 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:24:05 I certainly hope so Dec 08 23:24:17 * MollyK nods, smiling Dec 08 23:25:01 I am sure one day you'll be hoping the opposite, that I do not fall pregnant again too soon! Dec 08 23:25:39 Maybe but... unlikely Dec 08 23:27:24 * MollyK giggles Dec 08 23:27:32 Will eight be enough for you? Dec 08 23:27:52 * Morgan shrugs slightly Dec 08 23:27:56 We'll have to see won't we Dec 08 23:28:03 * MollyK nods Dec 08 23:29:01 Indeed we will, my love Dec 08 23:29:29 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:29:42 Come on, lets take this little man back to his mama Dec 08 23:29:59 * MollyK nods, standing Dec 08 23:30:13 * Morgan stands up Dec 08 23:30:22 Will you have to work in quiet hour now, as you've been here with me so long? Dec 08 23:32:10 No... I've arranged with Sorgi to have his plan for shifts by dinnertime, and Edward I'll speak to at three. Dec 08 23:34:27 * MollyK nods Dec 08 23:34:43 I'm glad. I enjoy that time very much Dec 08 23:34:50 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:34:51 Me too Dec 08 23:35:39 You do? I wondered if you might find it a little dull Dec 08 23:37:12 No... even when we're just sitting together quietly, it is not dull Dec 08 23:37:24 * MollyK smiles Dec 08 23:37:32 That's lovely, my love Dec 08 23:38:05 * Morgan smiles slightly, moving towards the door Dec 08 23:38:11 I can be nice sometimes Dec 08 23:38:48 And also naughty... very, very naughty. Dec 08 23:39:22 * Morgan nods Dec 08 23:39:24 On occasion Dec 08 23:41:01 * MollyK nods, opening the door for him so they can head towards the others Dec 08 23:41:13 * Morgan leads the way to find them Dec 08 23:53:25 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Dec 08 23:55:21 * MollyK has quit (Read error: EOF from client)