**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 8 11:15:13 2022 Oct 08 11:15:13 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Oct 08 13:05:46 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Oct 08 13:39:34 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Oct 08 17:27:42 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Oct 08 18:00:28 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Oct 08 18:11:20 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Oct 08 18:13:20 * MollyK is now known as Edward Oct 08 18:13:34 * Edward strolls along through the snow Oct 08 18:13:47 Tell me about the Drachen Oct 08 18:15:07 It was... _huge_ Oct 08 18:16:05 How did you find it? Oct 08 18:17:33 We were playing, trying to get the den finished and suddenly Varick looks up and says there's something in the trees and ran off. We followed and as we got closer we could see this light... I can't say seeing lights in the trees filled me with joy, I'm sure you understand Oct 08 18:18:30 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:18:42 I would think not Oct 08 18:20:25 By then Varick thought he could figure out what it was... and that it wanted to see us... so we moved further towards the lake and there it was. I remembered what Mina said about them liking fire so I lit a small one... Oct 08 18:20:56 * Edward nods, listening patiently Oct 08 18:23:45 Theus knows what it did to it, but the fire turned a slightly odd colour and I couldn't put it out. Then Varick says it wants to sniff us. *he frowns* You'll understand this already, but moreso when you have children I think... being face to... well, nostril with it, I felt wary but not particularly on edge, but when it went to sniff Varick and Molly, god I was tense. It sniffed Varicks face, and Molly's tummy, which brought it eye level with her Oct 08 18:28:18 * Edward has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Oct 08 18:31:09 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Oct 08 18:31:23 * MollyK is now known as Edward Oct 08 18:31:35 [18:18:24] • ​Edward​ shudders Oct 08 18:31:53 The thought of that with Mina, or Florrie... Oct 08 18:32:52 Sorry... I keep underestimating the strength of your feelings for Florrie, despite seeing that moment when they hit you Oct 08 18:33:21 It is difficult, loving her from afar Oct 08 18:33:38 * Morgan nods Oct 08 18:33:49 I'm sure it is Oct 08 18:34:55 I do not make a big deal of my fatherhood for fear of distressing you Oct 08 18:35:07 * Morgan looks over at him Oct 08 18:35:48 I am envious, and I will always miss Jana, but, now that your path is secured, I am happy for you Oct 08 18:36:07 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:37:00 Odd really, how we both have children that neither of us knew from birth, yet the other of us knew our child first Oct 08 18:37:34 I don't... understand brother Oct 08 18:38:01 You with Florrie and I with Varick Oct 08 18:38:15 Ah, yes, of course. Oct 08 18:38:50 How much we each missed out on... Oct 08 18:39:05 * Morgan nods Oct 08 18:40:13 What happened to the fire? Oct 08 18:41:04 Well, I couldn't put it out, and I didn't think the people of Graben would react too well to an unextinguishable fire suddenly appearing so, its in a lantern in my luggage Oct 08 18:41:16 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:41:40 Will you send it on to Hafenlohr? Oct 08 18:42:19 Not sure how they'd react to it turning up, so I'll be keeping it with me for the time being Oct 08 18:42:29 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:43:21 The offer still stands to leave Varick with us, if you decide the risks are too high Oct 08 18:43:39 * Morgan nods Oct 08 18:43:59 I appreciate that. I'll talk it over with Molly and see what he wants, though... he does love sailing Oct 08 18:44:11 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:44:22 I will leave it with you Oct 08 18:45:21 * Morgan nods Oct 08 18:46:38 Was it as beautiful as you expected? Oct 08 18:47:14 More... I've never really been so affected I had no words for it, but that thing... Oct 08 18:47:47 * Edward nods, smiling Oct 08 18:47:53 I told you so Oct 08 18:48:09 * Morgan nods Oct 08 18:48:44 It was utterly incredible Oct 08 18:49:55 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:50:24 Now you only need to see the aurora to compare it with Oct 08 18:51:23 Not sure we're sailing in the right direction for that Oct 08 18:52:41 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:52:51 Who knows what might be out there Oct 08 18:53:16 * Morgan shrugs Oct 08 18:53:27 Can't say that bothers me too much Oct 08 18:54:43 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:54:55 Varick was excited to see it? Oct 08 18:55:01 * Morgan nods Oct 08 18:55:15 We're all rather awestruck really Oct 08 18:55:50 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:56:10 It was something very special. I wonder if it was the same one Oct 08 18:57:05 * Morgan shrugs Oct 08 18:57:48 Who can say. I had heard that the ones that were left were quite dim, mentally speaking... that one definitely wasn't Oct 08 18:58:05 * Edward nods Oct 08 18:58:23 I wonder if Ivan knows anything about them Oct 08 19:04:27 From an animalistic point of view perhaps Oct 08 19:05:25 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:05:40 I thought he might want to see Mina... Oct 08 19:06:16 * Morgan nods, scratching his chin Oct 08 19:07:04 Perhaps it did not occur to him... perhaps he thinks himself unwelcome in her presence, given what his son did... Oct 08 19:07:41 * Edward shrugs Oct 08 19:07:56 She is not upset, and that is my primary concern Oct 08 19:08:04 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:10:12 Perhaps he will visit in the new year Oct 08 19:10:30 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:10:35 Maybe so Oct 08 19:11:07 If you're lucky, he'll wear clothes Oct 08 19:11:14 * Edward laughs Oct 08 19:11:23 I would expect him to Oct 08 19:11:41 It might not occur to him Oct 08 19:12:55 I hope he wore clothes meeting Molly and Varick Oct 08 19:13:06 For _most_ of it Oct 08 19:14:39 * Edward frowns Oct 08 19:14:48 And then he wasn't Oct 08 19:14:50 ? Oct 08 19:15:38 He was showing Varick what its like when he shifts... if he does it in clothes, they get all torn Oct 08 19:18:16 * Edward looks simultaneously fascinated and horrified Oct 08 19:18:23 What is that like? Oct 08 19:19:26 Disquieting... disgusting... graceful, fascinating... Oct 08 19:20:56 What did Varick make of it? Oct 08 19:21:55 He was fascinated by it, excited by his being able to do that in the future. Ivan suggested we send Varick to live with a pack once he matures a bit... Oct 08 19:25:28 And will you? Oct 08 19:26:27 I will do what is best for my son, but at this time, Varick has no wish to leave us. Oct 08 19:28:20 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:28:41 I would only say not to forget the role into which he was born. Oct 08 19:31:16 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:32:17 If it were solely my choice and I knew it would be right for him... I would keep him with me. He can explore the grounds of Haefenlor, they're private enough for experimenting with his ability, when it arrives Oct 08 19:33:11 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:34:41 Perhaps then see if you can foster an older child with similar abilities, or hire someone as groundskeeper or another outdoorsman who can do it. Oct 08 19:35:00 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:35:15 Another child would be a good idea... roughhousing is important for him Oct 08 19:35:23 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:35:43 You have made a decision not to send him to the Academy? Oct 08 19:36:39 The more I learn, the more I think it wise to not send him, though it breaks with tradition Oct 08 19:38:38 Yes it does. I would never keep my sons from the Academy. But we are very different men Oct 08 19:39:27 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:39:43 And yours won't have suffered as Varick has... or be able to turn furry when he wishes Oct 08 19:40:49 We hope. Oct 08 19:41:10 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:41:17 I'm afraid I have no information on that Oct 08 19:41:56 As Florrie has an ability, I am aware it is possible that my subsequent children might also Oct 08 19:42:22 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:42:46 Initially I had thought hers had come down through Alice's line but... no, apparently not Oct 08 19:43:38 As our families are connected, between yours, Molly's, and Varick's abilities, it is clearly in our bloodline Oct 08 19:43:54 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:44:01 Comes down through Lisette and Etelka Oct 08 19:45:11 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:45:16 Pretty names Oct 08 19:45:32 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:45:46 Little bit Montaigne if you ask me Oct 08 19:46:40 * Edward nods "More Montaigne than Father would choose" Oct 08 19:46:47 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:49:21 The house will be quieter when you have gone Oct 08 19:49:43 * Morgan smirks slightly Oct 08 19:49:49 Bit of an insult Oct 08 19:51:23 * Edward laughs Oct 08 19:52:52 I am even getting used to seeing Claudia around Oct 08 19:54:19 She won't admit it, but your friend has helped her in some ways Oct 08 19:55:23 I thought he'd be over his crush on her by now Oct 08 19:57:15 * Morgan nods Oct 08 19:57:18 Some things endure Oct 08 19:57:34 * Edward nods Oct 08 19:58:20 I hope settling here in Graben will help him find a wife Oct 08 20:01:29 He's certainly made an impact in town Oct 08 20:01:45 * Edward nods Oct 08 20:02:43 You should have seen us all just after the War... there wasn't a town we didn't turn heads in Oct 08 20:04:38 * Morgan nods Oct 08 20:04:41 I can imagine Oct 08 20:07:37 * Edward nods "We have always been a lively group. War made us close. Life since has separated us" Oct 08 20:08:31 Physically, perhaps... Oct 08 20:09:40 * Edward nods Oct 08 20:10:23 There was some disapproval when I said I was getting married, but I think the time they spent with Mina and I has altered that a little Oct 08 20:11:06 I think that disapproval only remains in one of them Oct 08 20:13:23 Potts will probably never marry. But he is good to the women he gets involved with Oct 08 20:14:09 You will not stand as second for him again in matters involving women I hope... Oct 08 20:15:34 Tough to say. I have responsibilities now, but he is also my best friend Oct 08 20:17:13 * Morgan sighs Oct 08 20:18:33 You know how it is with friends Oct 08 20:19:01 If he gets you killed with his behaviour, he will answer to me Oct 08 20:19:22 * Edward nods Oct 08 20:20:01 You would also take care of Mina, Florrie, and my children? Oct 08 20:20:22 That goes without saying Oct 08 20:22:33 * Edward nods "I will do the same for you, of course" Oct 08 20:23:10 I have been meaning to talk to you about that Oct 08 20:25:31 Go on Oct 08 20:26:53 My children would need guidance and acceptance with whatever ability they happen to have... father could only give them one of those things... you could give them both Oct 08 20:27:23 * Edward nods Oct 08 20:28:00 It might not come naturally to me, but they would have my support. Molly would no doubt devote herself to that too Oct 08 20:28:53 Molly would, eventually, end up with Sebastien Oct 08 20:30:50 Not whilst your children are not grown up though? Oct 08 20:31:35 We do not have a timeframe... Oct 08 20:33:04 How does she feel about all of this? Oct 08 20:33:39 Sebastien? Lets say none of us are happy about it, so I'm going to do my very best not to die Oct 08 20:34:24 You were not already doing that? Oct 08 20:35:10 I am... more resolved than I was Oct 08 20:35:53 * Edward nods Oct 08 20:36:00 Is he a good man? Oct 08 20:36:07 * Morgan nods Oct 08 20:36:21 You'd like him... and despair of him... he's very much like me Oct 08 20:36:32 They would suit? Oct 08 20:37:27 * Morgan nods Oct 08 20:38:43 And if it comes to that, leave them be? Oct 08 20:39:48 It is what is meant to be if she and I are not together Oct 08 20:41:04 * Edward nods Oct 08 20:41:19 What of the Grafdoms? Oct 08 20:42:04 They'll need stewarding until my children are of age Oct 08 20:43:22 You do not want your wife doing that? Oct 08 20:44:01 She will need assistance, given certain political views in Eisen Oct 08 20:45:18 I would arrange for a man to do it instead. Oct 08 20:46:31 Something for she and I to discuss I think Oct 08 20:47:56 * Edward smiles Oct 08 20:48:14 You and your co-captain. Oct 08 20:48:58 * Morgan nods Oct 08 20:49:00 quite Oct 08 20:51:46 * Edward shakes his head "It is unfathomable to me, but I will concede that it appears to work for the two of you" Oct 08 20:52:09 We are stronger for it Oct 08 20:53:38 * Edward looks at him Oct 08 20:53:56 I am sure you mean no offence in that. Oct 08 20:54:17 * Morgan stops, looking at him seriously Oct 08 20:55:12 Of course not. I need her guidance, in the times I cannot see the way forward. Oct 08 20:58:27 * Edward stops briefly too Oct 08 20:58:32 I appreciate that Oct 08 20:58:39 * Morgan raises a finger momentarily Oct 08 20:59:14 We are stronger than I would be alone. You are strong without it. Oct 08 21:01:09 Interesting... explain that Oct 08 21:01:50 * Morgan starts walking Oct 08 21:04:24 * Edward walks too Oct 08 21:05:06 I am still... held back by our loss... and more aware of my own naivity to how our world works, and mindful of what is to come for me... In those times I am too overwhelmed to steer the ship, she takes the tiller. Helps me choose my course. You, on the other hand, have always known what is required, and have not needed that support. You are strong enough to guide everyone. I am not. Oct 08 21:06:26 * Edward puts his hands in his pockets Oct 08 21:06:41 Strong, yes, wise, not always, Oct 08 21:07:26 _that_ comes with time and experience Oct 08 21:08:34 Though most of what father terms as wise is simply thinking how others would experience our decisions Oct 08 21:09:05 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:10:16 I will try to look at those things also Oct 08 21:11:14 I am proud of your growth in that. I think it a mark of a good ruler to take into consideration his peoples views and experience Oct 08 21:14:31 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:14:58 Those things will not necessarily dictate my choices, but my decisions will be more carefully considered Oct 08 21:15:12 * Morgan nods Oct 08 21:18:00 I think you seem stronger than you believe yourself to be Oct 08 21:18:49 Easier to be when you have a tether to safety Oct 08 21:19:43 That is Molly? Oct 08 21:20:22 In most cases. You ever wound rope? Made it from string? Oct 08 21:21:44 No, of course not Oct 08 21:21:54 * Morgan rolls his eyes Oct 08 21:23:30 You start with, say, five strings, and you wind them all into one thicker string... do that with several sets, then you wind those thicker strings together... eventually, you get rope... Since I came home, and especially since we were at the Eisenfursts home, you are all the smaller strings, winding into the rope that tethers me, keeps me grounded and safe. Oct 08 21:24:41 * Edward nods slowly Oct 08 21:24:46 Safe from what? Oct 08 21:24:55 * Morgan shrugs Oct 08 21:26:03 Sailors are always jumping through the rigging... the rope keeps them from falling to their death. The world is my rigging. The rope helps me gauge if I can make the gap. Oct 08 21:27:38 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:31:17 What did that whilst you were away? Oct 08 21:31:55 Mostly grumbled that the local monsters weren't up to the job Oct 08 21:32:14 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:32:29 No Schneeskald there? Oct 08 21:33:21 No... other pets of the winter prince, though... lots of them. And an idiot called Fyodor who sent horrors in puzzle boxes as presents. Oct 08 21:34:21 besides... it wasn't the schneeskald that did me in in the forest... Oct 08 21:34:42 No? Oct 08 21:34:50 * Morgan shakes his head Oct 08 21:35:36 My magic recoils like a cannon when I'm not practiced... I did something new, the recoil knocked me over and I cracked my head open on a rock Oct 08 21:36:07 Eisen itself is more dangerous for you it seems Oct 08 21:36:35 The chunky, slatey bits in particular... Oct 08 21:39:10 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:39:31 Have you practiced now? Oct 08 21:40:16 In that and a couple of other things, yes... there's always more to do Oct 08 21:41:13 Impossible on the ship. You will have to do it in the forests on the way Oct 08 21:41:38 * Morgan nods Oct 08 21:42:02 Life is easier now I've got a better grip on it when I have nightmares Oct 08 21:43:19 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:44:54 Father and I were discussing this. He tells me many of his dreams are embarrassing or silly Oct 08 21:45:32 He's said similar to me... I'd like a silly dream for a change. Or a night without any. Oct 08 21:47:50 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:48:20 Most of the time I can barely recall mine for more than a minute or two after waking Oct 08 21:48:52 Except perhaps one about Alarice dying... Oct 08 21:49:07 That was unusual Oct 08 21:49:41 * Morgan nods Oct 08 21:49:45 Should not be possible Oct 08 21:50:15 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:50:59 The Nibelungen gave me something in the guardhouse to drink, they changed my memories Oct 08 21:51:33 * Morgan nods Oct 08 21:51:49 Yes, they did. Oct 08 21:52:32 How did my dream subvert that? They are, presumably, very powerful Oct 08 21:53:27 More powerful than you'd imagine... and thwarted by something small in some things. I don't know why you dream it, you shouldn't be able to Oct 08 21:53:38 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:54:27 I would have preferred not to Oct 08 21:55:05 I could ask them to try again... Oct 08 21:55:59 No, it does not do to avoid that which makes us uneasy Oct 08 21:56:20 * Morgan looks at him Oct 08 21:56:28 Where've you picked that up? Oct 08 21:56:47 Molly, I believe Oct 08 21:57:02 * Morgan nods Oct 08 21:57:06 That would make sense Oct 08 21:57:45 I thought it might have come from your book from Karlsruhe Oct 08 21:58:07 No... I said it to Molly some time ago Oct 08 21:58:38 * Edward nods Oct 08 21:59:04 Do you want servants to attend you at the lake tonight? Oct 08 21:59:44 No, we'll take care of ourselves Oct 08 22:01:39 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:02:45 Any man worth his salt should be able to play maid to his own wife Oct 08 22:03:14 I can see you in an apron... Oct 08 22:05:00 * Edward rolls his eyes Oct 08 22:05:07 I meant for dressing her Oct 08 22:05:53 I know what you meant, you great pillock. If needs be she will have warm water too... Oct 08 22:07:14 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:07:34 I am sure you will have a nice evening Oct 08 22:08:58 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:09:07 I reckon so Oct 08 22:09:49 * Edward nods "A new year ahead of us, new challenges await" Oct 08 22:11:00 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:11:42 What you're doing here is what you were meant to do. Have faith in yourself, be humble and never too proud to ask for help Oct 08 22:12:16 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:12:33 I hope you take that advice for yourself too Oct 08 22:18:10 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:18:51 I will. That and trying to be kinder to myself... as I've said to father, and Molly says to me... I'd like you to be kind to the person I love. Or something like that Oct 08 22:19:11 * Edward smiles Oct 08 22:19:23 I like that Oct 08 22:19:45 I'll have to ask her to repeat it, she puts it so much better than that Oct 08 22:19:57 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:20:33 Will you be making a New Years wish? Oct 08 22:21:22 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:21:32 Despite already having almost everything I could wish for, yes... Oct 08 22:21:41 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:22:51 It almost seems ungracious to wish for more. A year ago I would have said all of this was not even grantable by wishing Oct 08 22:24:13 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:24:35 I know... but there is just that one thing, isn't there... Oct 08 22:25:50 More than one, I think. Having a good relationship with my daughter, and leading Graben to greater prosperity too Oct 08 22:26:50 Ah, but those are things that you can actively influence... the other... that is a matter for Theus Oct 08 22:27:26 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:27:41 By this time next year, I hope. Oct 08 22:27:57 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:29:52 You have not forgotten your promise to send seeds to Florrie I assume Oct 08 22:30:10 I have already sent them, the same day I said I would Oct 08 22:30:30 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:30:52 There's a good chance they'll resemble nothing like their parent plants once she's got her hands on them Oct 08 22:31:54 * Edward smiles Oct 08 22:32:02 As long as they make her happy Oct 08 22:32:13 Oh they will Oct 08 22:33:19 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:34:05 I have said for the chapel bells to ring at midnight tonight Oct 08 22:34:36 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:34:41 Is that a normal occurrence here? Oct 08 22:36:46 No... but on New Years Eve in sixty four I told Mina that by the next New Years Eve we would be wed... and she suggested something about finishing off the old year and starting the new one together, and that requires my knowing when it is midnight Oct 08 22:38:34 I see... Oct 08 22:38:47 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:39:10 In truth I had forgotten until she mentioned it this morning Oct 08 22:39:39 Clearly something she has kept in mind Oct 08 22:40:24 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:40:38 Every single New Years Eve, apparently Oct 08 22:42:08 Perhaps make it a point to show she will not see another New Year in alone Oct 08 22:43:50 I will give her what she suggested, be assured. The five New Years she has missed will be made up for in the years ahead Oct 08 22:44:03 * Morgan nods Oct 08 22:45:21 Have we covered everything? It must be lunch time by now Oct 08 22:46:07 Reckon so, aye Oct 08 22:47:46 * Edward nods Oct 08 22:48:23 Let's go then Oct 08 22:48:59 * Morgan nods, draping an arm over his brothers shoulder and heading for the house Oct 08 22:51:29 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Oct 08 22:51:50 * Edward has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)