**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 6 14:15:46 2022 Oct 06 14:15:46 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Oct 06 16:39:48 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Oct 06 18:39:08 * Morgan (~mads@192.168.1.117) has joined Oct 06 19:43:02 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Oct 06 19:43:19 * MollyK has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) Oct 06 19:47:06 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Oct 06 19:47:20 * MollyK is now known as Edward Oct 06 19:51:31 * Edward is found out at the stables with Wonks and DeeDee Oct 06 19:52:01 * Morgan wanders over aimlessly Oct 06 19:53:54 D: Your Excellency... how much would a horse like these ones cost? *he nods towards the palominos* Oct 06 19:54:47 Depends... on their own, somewhere around four hundred guilders... matched pair like them, a thousand Oct 06 19:55:57 D: *he makes a low whistle* too rich for my blood! Oct 06 19:56:22 Bit rich for mine really Oct 06 19:58:52 You aren't taking them to Capperlucia for three months? Oct 06 19:59:20 * Morgan shakes his head Oct 06 19:59:26 No, they'd be miserable at sea Oct 06 20:01:36 You can send them here rather than Koln, Innesbruck, or Sudlachenburg Oct 06 20:02:00 * Morgan smirks slightly Oct 06 20:04:52 I'm sure I could Oct 06 20:05:37 D: *he looks to Morgan very earnestly* I would certainly make it my business to exercise them carefully and appropriately Oct 06 20:08:08 Got a bit of an itch to ride one, I take it? Oct 06 20:09:13 D: *he nods* I like horses Oct 06 20:10:04 * Morgan looks at Edward Oct 06 20:10:09 You have a need of him right now? Oct 06 20:10:32 * Edward shakes his head Oct 06 20:11:09 No, he's more ornament than use most of the time Oct 06 20:11:14 * Morgan glances at DeeDee before nodding at the horses Oct 06 20:11:29 Go on then. Try not to break him Oct 06 20:11:45 D: *he grins* My thanks, your Excellency. I will be careful Oct 06 20:12:48 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:15:17 *DeeDee goes off to sort the horse, and Wonks excuses himself. Edward puts his hands in his pockets* Oct 06 20:15:27 Wonks used to be a good rider Oct 06 20:15:40 Must be difficult for him Oct 06 20:16:00 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:17:17 Indeed. Ivan came? Oct 06 20:17:29 * Morgan nods, looking in the direction Wonks went Oct 06 20:17:33 Aye, he did Oct 06 20:18:10 Was it Wonks you wanted to see? Oct 06 20:18:23 Hmm? No, no I came to see you Oct 06 20:19:00 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:19:13 Let's walk then Oct 06 20:19:21 * Morgan nods slightly Oct 06 20:19:29 Lead the way Freiarr Oct 06 20:19:47 * Edward inclines his head Oct 06 20:19:55 What did you need? Oct 06 20:21:50 Few things... Molly is fully aware and supportive of my efforts to be open with Varick, and in my desire to remember them more than mourn them... the awkward silence is really not needed Oct 06 20:22:14 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:22:36 I understand that, but it is still a shock for the rest of us Oct 06 20:22:42 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:23:26 I'm afraid brother that is something you'll all need to adjust to. *he looks at him* it is time to let go of all that pain and remember them as they deserve to be Oct 06 20:24:03 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:24:24 I am glad you are finding peace Oct 06 20:24:39 I'm hoping having Mina at your side will aide you in that Oct 06 20:25:32 I hope so too Oct 06 20:26:04 * Morgan nods, as if ticking off something from a list Oct 06 20:26:15 I want to discuss the future Oct 06 20:26:31 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:26:34 Yes? Oct 06 20:27:27 I'm trying to arrange to speak to Florrie tomorrow... I wish to speak to her alone for a few moments, and I think it fair she has some time to talk to Varick. Oct 06 20:27:58 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:28:40 The snowball fight it generally after lunch, I will make time Oct 06 20:28:54 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:29:48 I am going to suggest that when we come back to Haefenlor, Alice and Florrie comes to us, and you and mother and father. There are a number of reasons for my choice of location Oct 06 20:30:25 * Edward nods "I'd like to hear them" Oct 06 20:31:50 From a practical point of view, you and father do not need to leave Eisen and I don't need to leave my... *he sighs* Grafdom. From a social point of view... thats a little trickier. To my mind it is vital that both Alice and Florrie are comfortable and at ease. I'm sure you agree? Oct 06 20:32:51 I do, and from my point of view I want the situation easy to manage where Mina is concerned. Oct 06 20:32:58 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:35:22 Haefenlor is, for all intents and purposes, neutral ground, with the exception that any... unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated and, being my home, its my right to say what goes. Make no mistake, brother, I do not think for a second that any of you would do anything like that... but I think the knowledge of it will aid everyone to feel more comfortable... see? Oct 06 20:35:40 * Morgan scratches his chin Oct 06 20:35:49 Its more for Florries benefit than anyone else Oct 06 20:36:39 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:36:58 There are rules of engagement that everyone can feel safe with Oct 06 20:37:07 * Morgan nods slowly Oct 06 20:38:02 I know its difficult at the moment that Florrie has connected with me... but I intend to use that to help her know her family, and her feeling I am in control of it all, I believe, will help her relax Oct 06 20:39:03 I do not resent that, Morgan Oct 06 20:39:10 * Morgan smiles slightly Oct 06 20:39:46 I know. But I know you wish it had been you, as would I in your place. Oct 06 20:40:17 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:41:12 I want her to be close to you, and Molly, and Varick Oct 06 20:41:44 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:42:12 I think that would be good for all of us... another reason for Haefenlor... if mother or father find her appearance too difficult to start with, they aren't that far from home Oct 06 20:43:23 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:43:34 That is sound thinking Oct 06 20:43:55 * Morgan grins Oct 06 20:44:03 Wise beyon' me ears Oct 06 20:44:45 * Edward laughs Oct 06 20:44:54 * Morgan stretches his jaw Oct 06 20:45:26 I don't believe their reaction will be as... visceral as yours or mine, but it still won't be easy for them Oct 06 20:45:37 I agree. This will be in April or May? Oct 06 20:45:43 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:46:12 I know its a long time to wait, but you will be able to speak to her before that anyway, and you need time to set out your stall, so to speak, here Oct 06 20:46:54 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:47:27 There is much to do. Mina and I are not going on a honeymoon now Oct 06 20:47:34 * Morgan nods Oct 06 20:47:51 Perhaps when things are settled, you will take her to the golden lantern? Oct 06 20:48:09 Or back to the townhouse in Freiburg Oct 06 20:48:19 * Morgan speaks quietly Oct 06 20:48:56 The lantern has two things going for it that nowhere else does... a lantern with some fire from the wall of flame... and _absolute_ privacy Oct 06 20:49:16 * Edward smiles Oct 06 20:49:51 The lantern sounds interesting. Absolutely privacy is unlikely anywhere Oct 06 20:50:17 We were not disturbed at all. Private enclosed garden that wasn't full of snow... Oct 06 20:50:44 * Edward nods slowly Oct 06 20:50:53 That suited you, by the sounds of it Oct 06 20:51:38 Would suit me more now... now, how good is your acting? Oct 06 20:53:07 What sort of acting? Oct 06 20:53:36 Surprise, humility, gratitude... Oct 06 20:54:18 * Edward shrugs "well enough" Oct 06 20:54:56 Varick wants to give you something. I'd rather it not take you by surprise, but you'll need to act your part and pretend you had no idea... Oct 06 20:56:49 * Edward nods Oct 06 20:56:53 What is it? Oct 06 20:57:06 Crusader Oct 06 20:57:13 * Edward stops walking Oct 06 20:57:28 But Crusader is his father's horse. Oct 06 20:57:31 * Morgan stops Oct 06 20:57:43 I know. He knows. Oct 06 20:58:23 I should explain that I will look after him until Varick is bigger Oct 06 20:59:03 Thats not what he wants. He will have a horse he can grow with, possibly Xantha's offspring. He wants you to have Crusader. You like him and he, apparently, likes you Oct 06 21:00:01 * Edward nods, looking touched Oct 06 21:00:11 I have always been fond of him Oct 06 21:00:17 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:00:33 I know. I think it is a step he needs to take in his healing Oct 06 21:02:19 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:02:30 Thank you for forewarning me Oct 06 21:02:36 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:02:52 I thought it wise Oct 06 21:03:41 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:04:08 * Morgan starts walking again Oct 06 21:04:16 * Edward walks with him Oct 06 21:04:19 You need a minute to process that? Oct 06 21:04:26 No Oct 06 21:04:48 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:04:59 I suppose that brings us to Baelor Oct 06 21:05:07 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:05:14 What was that about? Oct 06 21:05:33 We discussed his future Oct 06 21:05:49 Yes? Oct 06 21:06:14 He is obviously aware you are replacing him but not if you intend to keep him in your service... Oct 06 21:07:08 I am not replacing him for at least two or three years at least Oct 06 21:07:17 And then? Oct 06 21:07:58 And then Wonks will probably take over, if he shows he will do it well and wants it Oct 06 21:08:12 And what of Baelor? Oct 06 21:08:29 I will pension him off Oct 06 21:09:01 * Morgan looks around to make sure there's no-one in earshot Oct 06 21:09:25 *they're well away from anyone Oct 06 21:09:33 I think that a mistake Oct 06 21:09:40 Why? Oct 06 21:10:16 I will require your oath you will not tell another soul... Oct 06 21:11:01 Of course, you have it Oct 06 21:11:10 * Morgan stops, looking at him solemnly Oct 06 21:11:28 You tell anyone and I die... Oct 06 21:12:02 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:12:05 I understand Oct 06 21:12:08 * Morgan starts walking again Oct 06 21:12:43 Baelor is in the employ of... lets say an organisation, and the safety of Graben is his assignment, particularly from the border. Oct 06 21:12:47 * Edward walks on Oct 06 21:13:17 He has been in post a long time Oct 06 21:13:29 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:13:50 I know. I'm not sure if he became part of the organisation during that time, or before he started here Oct 06 21:14:46 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:15:03 Do you feel Graben is safe with him as overseer? Oct 06 21:16:52 Aside from Rief, the record speaks for itself... however, leaving him in place would look odd, given you've already laid out what you wish to happen for the role... he has told me he was going to try to ingratiate himself with you so you'd keep him on in some capacity. Perhaps over the next couple of years you could be impressed by his insight and find some.. advisory role for him once Wonks takes over... Oct 06 21:18:02 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:18:14 If that is what you would recommend, I will Oct 06 21:19:14 I'd rather they don't try to sneak another person in under your nose... and he seems a good man with goals aligned with yours and he has access to resources should the border become contentious for any reason. Oct 06 21:19:46 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:19:58 Then I see no problem in working with him Oct 06 21:20:06 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:21:16 You've taken that in a damn sight better than I did Oct 06 21:21:55 Think of it that I see your confidence in this as reassuring Oct 06 21:22:19 * Morgan nods slowly Oct 06 21:23:18 They'd have found him some assignment elsewhere but... why waste his talent and resource if we don't have to Oct 06 21:23:53 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:24:05 He is very knowledgeable about the area and people Oct 06 21:24:46 Knowing what day it is, reckon he knows someone who can get me some thick leather today? Oct 06 21:25:57 At a cost, no doubt Oct 06 21:26:23 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:26:36 Thats fine. I need a saddle, but I imagine you have one spare? Oct 06 21:27:44 Several Oct 06 21:28:17 * Morgan nods, looking at him a moment, looking slightly unsure of himself Oct 06 21:28:45 What? Oct 06 21:30:08 I took it upon myself to finish the burial. The staff have been working incredibly hard so I sent them in to get warm and... it felt the _right_ thing to do. Oct 06 21:30:16 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:30:25 Joseff would have liked that Oct 06 21:31:51 * Morgan nods, obviously relaxing Oct 06 21:32:13 It is beyond doubt now that my young man is a shifter Oct 06 21:32:46 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:32:52 Poor child Oct 06 21:33:36 I'm not entirely certain I agree Oct 06 21:33:42 Why? Oct 06 21:34:32 You saw Ivan, how _free_ he felt... and Natasha, would you pity her? I think, given support, it will not be a problem too big... certainly no more than my own particular ability Oct 06 21:35:01 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:35:14 He is lucky to have you Oct 06 21:36:05 I'm lucky to have him. I daresay my own healing would be much less were it not for having him and being honest with him Oct 06 21:36:51 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:37:38 You seem much better each time we talk Oct 06 21:40:04 Apart from yesterday, yes. Oct 06 21:40:27 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:40:36 Yes Oct 06 21:41:07 I wanted to ask your advice... Oct 06 21:43:26 Varick has picked up certain ideas about how babies are made... I'm wondering when I should be having the discussion with him about all of that... Oct 06 21:43:52 Already?! Oct 06 21:44:56 His cousins are farmers and a little older... he has this idea that to make a baby you have to play leapfrog but not quite make it... and now Ivan has mentioned wet dreams to him and I'm all at sea, and not in the confident way I would normally be Oct 06 21:45:13 * Edward starts laughing Oct 06 21:45:50 I suppose animals mating could look like leapfrog Oct 06 21:45:55 Thank you for your sympathy... Oct 06 21:46:09 * Morgan looks at him sidelong Oct 06 21:46:11 I asked father Oct 06 21:46:26 * Edward laughs even harder Oct 06 21:46:42 Did he also think it was like leapfrog?! Oct 06 21:47:00 Uhhh, no, he didn't understand how it was possible like that... Oct 06 21:47:25 * Edward looks like he will be sick with laughing so hard Oct 06 21:47:51 * Morgan stops, waiting for him to calm down Oct 06 21:48:06 * Edward takes a deep breath Oct 06 21:48:29 It's hardly difficult to figure that out! Oct 06 21:49:05 * Morgan shrugs Oct 06 21:49:12 Can't say it had occurred to me until very recently Oct 06 21:49:38 * Edward looks at him as if trying to work out if he is joking Oct 06 21:50:07 * Morgan just looks at him Oct 06 21:50:23 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:50:47 You will need to speak to Varick before he says something to the wrong person Oct 06 21:50:55 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:51:05 What the hell do I say Edward? Oct 06 21:52:45 * Edward thinks Oct 06 21:53:19 I've never had to have this talk with anyone but Father, and that was excruciating Oct 06 21:53:36 So I gathered Oct 06 21:54:38 Don't let Father do it Oct 06 21:54:57 He has no intention of doing it Oct 06 21:55:43 It's a pity Dekker has gone already Oct 06 21:56:01 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:56:18 If I thought it could wait that long I'd write to him Oct 06 21:57:09 Grendlik might have had this chat with a few boys at the orphanage, wet dreams especially Oct 06 21:57:15 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:57:21 Father suggested I also speak to him Oct 06 21:57:31 * Edward nods Oct 06 21:58:44 I will think about how I would approach it with a son of that age. Most of what I knew I learnt from the other boys at the Academy Oct 06 21:59:12 * Morgan nods Oct 06 21:59:19 I thought that'd be the case Oct 06 22:00:02 You must have been the same? Oct 06 22:00:12 * Morgan shakes his head Oct 06 22:00:15 No, not really Oct 06 22:01:39 I would be having a talk with my sons before the Academy, but they would be at least three years older, and much more at the stage where the bodily changes were becoming more apparent Oct 06 22:02:11 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:02:33 I'll talk to Holzheim, see what advice he has Oct 06 22:03:29 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:03:46 I would appreciate it being passed on Oct 06 22:05:03 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:05:05 Of course Oct 06 22:05:16 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:05:46 I do not want my sons to walk into marriage as clueless as Father Oct 06 22:06:12 No. I feel for him Oct 06 22:09:02 He can pretend, on occassion, to be at ease with discussing sex, but it is rare Oct 06 22:10:12 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:10:24 He's trying to overcome it, you know Oct 06 22:11:17 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:11:29 Good for him, I hope he is successful Oct 06 22:11:50 I think it is a desire to connect with you more Oct 06 22:13:57 It is not needed. That part of my life is behind me. I am completely committed to Mina, as I had always wanted to be. Oct 06 22:14:18 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:14:35 Are you intending to carry on Joseff's private tradition this evening? Oct 06 22:15:50 No, not this evening. Until I can swim, I will not take such a risk. Next year, perhaps Oct 06 22:16:46 Then you will not mind if I take Molly to the lake tonight... Oct 06 22:18:41 * Edward shakes his head Oct 06 22:19:27 Not at all. Between your magic and hers, I am confident we will not find two frozen naked bodies out there tomorrow Oct 06 22:19:54 * Morgan smiles slightly Oct 06 22:20:19 Don't think it'll be magic keeping us warm. I do recommend going up there on a clear night, laying back and watching the stars though Oct 06 22:22:02 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:22:21 Nothing supernatural, just the magic of your love? Oct 06 22:22:29 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:22:46 * Edward smirks Oct 06 22:23:10 Maybe you can show her what happens when a man comes on snow, brother. Oct 06 22:23:34 Given our aims, I think that would be... wasteful Oct 06 22:24:07 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:24:42 Things are moving along swiftly then. I am surprised you've jumped in so quickly Oct 06 22:25:13 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:25:30 You helped me realise that it is what I want and need. Oct 06 22:25:52 Besides, it could take months for the herbs effects to cease Oct 06 22:26:57 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:27:12 I think it was my daughter that helped you realise that Oct 06 22:28:02 A combination... my feelings of losing her were brought into focus by your words... Oct 06 22:28:43 Which ones? Oct 06 22:29:35 * Morgan closes his eyes, trying to remember exactly what he said Oct 06 22:30:11 Something about all the love I had that was waiting for a child to receive it... something like that Oct 06 22:31:00 * Edward nods Oct 06 22:31:20 I hope you return from Capperlucia with a special souvenir Oct 06 22:31:46 * Morgan nods Oct 06 22:31:52 We can but wait and see Oct 06 22:34:22 * Edward nods, smiling Oct 06 22:34:28 Indeed Oct 06 22:35:42 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Oct 06 22:43:10 * Edward has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Oct 06 23:50:24 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Oct 06 23:55:49 * MollyK has quit (Ping Timeout)