**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 9 00:00:14 2022 Aug 09 00:00:14 * Morgan scratches his chin, looking up at the sky Aug 09 00:00:25 You know Molly and I are taking steps to avoid pregnancy? Aug 09 00:00:52 *it's charcoal rather than black now* I am aware of that, yes Aug 09 00:01:45 So our joining is almost entirely about the connection, the feelings, the sensations... When you are hoping for more, or at least open to it, it is somewhat different Aug 09 00:02:05 * Edward nods thoughtfully Aug 09 00:02:19 My apologies, this must be a sensitive subject at present Aug 09 00:03:31 Its not the easiest, given what we want and what we can have... but, like talking about Jana, I do not wish to shy away from it, particularly if it helps Aug 09 00:03:42 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:03:51 Where does that stand at present? Aug 09 00:04:36 Where it was before I spoke to the Eisenfurst. It will give us time to setup our nest, as Molly puts it. Aug 09 00:04:48 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:05:34 I am sorry, I know you were hopeful. Mina has mentioned some concerns that our having a child in the near future might be upsetting for you both Aug 09 00:06:05 Do not, under any circumstances, put a hold on that out of fear it will upset us. Aug 09 00:06:27 * Edward smiles Aug 09 00:06:54 That is not going to happen. Besides, one cannot remove the cream from the pie, so to speak, Aug 09 00:07:19 * Morgan closes his eyes a moment before shaking his head Aug 09 00:07:30 Which is a wonderful opportunity to apologise for threatening Potts Aug 09 00:07:38 * Edward laughs Aug 09 00:07:47 What has he done now? Aug 09 00:09:05 I took an opportunity to express my gratitude for his actions, assuring him if I can ever help him, he needs just ask... but that if he ever put me in the situation of explaining something like that to father again I would... rip off his leg and beat him to death with the lumpy end which Wonks seemed to find particularly funny Aug 09 00:09:25 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:10:40 Wonks has always had an odd humour. I remember him wetting himself because DeeDee told him if he wasn't careful DeeDee would pluck out his eyes, and stick them down his windpipe so he could watch himself suffocate. Aug 09 00:11:28 Now that is interesting... I know _exactly_ where he got that idea Aug 09 00:11:38 * Edward watches Morgan Aug 09 00:11:51 Do you...? Aug 09 00:11:54 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:12:09 A few years ago he saw Claudia practicing... she told him if he didn't stop staring at her, thats what she'd do to him Aug 09 00:12:17 I know. Aug 09 00:13:35 *he sips his coffee* In confidence, he had something of a crush on her for a couple of years. Aug 09 00:13:55 From their conversation last night I'd say that's quite obvious Aug 09 00:14:27 I did give him a warning that I thought she had an attachment elsewhere Aug 09 00:14:48 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:14:56 That is complicated Aug 09 00:15:04 * Edward shrugs Aug 09 00:15:34 He understands not to pursue her. Not that he has enough of a deathwish regardless Aug 09 00:16:41 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 00:17:18 That's their issue. I'm not getting involved. She's done some snooping... she's confident none of your guards here were involved in Riefs plans Aug 09 00:18:38 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:18:58 Hopeless as they are, I am glad they are not disloyal Aug 09 00:19:06 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:19:21 Thick as posts, she said... she's going to put some time in training them until we leave Aug 09 00:19:29 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:19:34 I will pay her Aug 09 00:19:59 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:20:04 I think that would be appropriate Aug 09 00:20:12 So that you are aware, we will be having a rule here starting today that the time between one and two in the afternoon is a time for quiet, personal hobbies, and no one is to disturb Mina and I Aug 09 00:20:33 That seems... familiar... Aug 09 00:20:41 * Edward nods, smiling Aug 09 00:20:54 I believe that is the rule on your ship too Aug 09 00:21:10 I think you might be right Aug 09 00:21:42 It is good for our wives to have our undivided attention each day, and to be able to rely on that routine Aug 09 00:22:18 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:23:12 I think father and mother will appreciate that rule too... which reminds me, I heard him telling mother last night that you have shown a strength and calmness he did not know you possessed. He's very proud of you. Aug 09 00:23:29 * Edward bows his head Aug 09 00:23:40 I thank you for telling me Aug 09 00:24:08 He is not aware I heard it, so I'd rather you not tell him. Aug 09 00:24:35 Of course. Has he slept in her room tonight, or should we be ready for his mood? Aug 09 00:24:58 Mother suggested his mood might be better today... Aug 09 00:25:06 * Edward smiles Aug 09 00:25:38 Good for them. I have not slept that well as long as I can recall Aug 09 00:25:58 * Morgan nods, sighing Aug 09 00:27:29 I cannot tell you the depth of my joy at putting out the candle and holding her in the dark, learning how she falls asleep, how it feels to have her completely at ease and in my protection Aug 09 00:28:07 Does she snore? Aug 09 00:28:30 A gentleman would never tell Aug 09 00:28:42 Thats almost the correct answer Aug 09 00:28:51 * Edward laughs Aug 09 00:29:27 It's more a little snuffle than a snore. I think it might be one of my favourite sounds, because it means she is there Aug 09 00:29:58 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:30:01 I am happy for you Aug 09 00:30:31 _I_ am happy for me. A few tears were shed, I must admit Aug 09 00:30:56 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:31:24 Good. A little raw emotion increases your bond Aug 09 00:31:30 Did you have that on your wedding night? Aug 09 00:32:28 No... I had not made it plain the depth of my love for her, while we were happy she was not as happy as she deserved to be Aug 09 00:32:42 *He and Molly had fallen exhaustedly asleep after she had shown him what the girls on the Coral said pleasuring a man with one's mouth was supposed to be like* Aug 09 00:32:58 You should not blame yourself for that, brother Aug 09 00:33:10 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 00:33:32 It was my failing, and I use it remind myself not to let her doubt it for a second ever again Aug 09 00:33:48 * Edward sips his coffee Aug 09 00:34:06 If it is helpful to you, of course. Aug 09 00:34:14 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:34:19 By the way, you owe me big time Aug 09 00:34:36 We have established this, but what for this time? Aug 09 00:35:25 Oh, this goes beyond the pail for brotherly love... after I came back downstairs and was given an acorn, I made a point that my first dance be with Diana. Aug 09 00:35:59 She dances passably, and she is so busy counting steps she barely talks... Aug 09 00:36:41 She did quite well, once I got her to relax. Either way, I figured she would be pleased that the first dance of a Duke went to her. Aug 09 00:36:52 That was generous Aug 09 00:37:15 She feels like an outsider... that is painful. Aug 09 00:37:21 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:37:53 Did you manage to waltz with Molly? Aug 09 00:38:12 A couple of times... and once with Heidi Aug 09 00:38:19 * Edward groans Aug 09 00:38:23 My condolences Aug 09 00:38:30 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 00:38:35 She's a devious little madam Aug 09 00:38:43 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:38:51 Tried to steal the lead? Aug 09 00:39:08 Succeeded, actually, though her method was a little cruel Aug 09 00:39:16 Oh? Aug 09 00:39:37 She'd tried a couple of times, but distracted me by telling me Molly looked unhappy. When I looked... Aug 09 00:39:46 * Edward snorts Aug 09 00:39:59 Nothing else would get you Aug 09 00:40:37 Probably not, no Aug 09 00:41:36 She did this to me where we at Court in Posen once. She would not stop trying to lead me... so I told her I would spank her there in front of everyone... Aug 09 00:41:58 By any chance did she bend over? Aug 09 00:42:32 No. She looked me dead in the eye and said "yes please, daddy!" Aug 09 00:42:43 Oh dear lord Aug 09 00:43:15 I just tripped over my own feet. My brain could not take in what she had said Aug 09 00:44:06 What with you being so innocent... Aug 09 00:45:00 I had never heard anything like that before or since, even in brothels. She left me on the dance floor in a heap, and went to Zench to tell him what she had done. Everyone assume I was drunk. Aug 09 00:46:00 Just as well, I think... she managed to get a lot of attention with her laughter when I picked her up, that's for sure Aug 09 00:46:12 * Edward frowns slightly Aug 09 00:46:17 You picked her up? Aug 09 00:46:53 Zench told me about her pretending to be dead weight, and I said it wasn't an issue and demonstrated by lifting her a little off her feet. Nothing scandalous Aug 09 00:47:02 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:47:25 My concern was for Molly's reaction. I am aware she has a possessive streak Aug 09 00:48:02 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:48:22 I think it has helped that I am more expressive toward her... Aug 09 00:48:31 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:48:56 That will always help. She will not thrive if she is not secure Aug 09 00:49:04 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:49:18 Well, I'm hardly dressed like a peacock for _my_ benefit Aug 09 00:49:44 I thought that was to satisfy me, not satisfy her Aug 09 00:50:21 Don't be daft... I love you, but there are limits Aug 09 00:50:31 * Edward laughs Aug 09 00:50:46 Were you up til late last night? Aug 09 00:50:54 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:51:09 Standing in your stead, mingling, doing noble things, you know how it is Aug 09 00:51:22 * Edward nods Aug 09 00:51:56 I hope you will feel free to take that time after lunch with Molly to make up for it Aug 09 00:52:19 Might have already made up for it, but I will anyway Aug 09 00:52:39 * Edward smiles Aug 09 00:53:26 I am not sure how many times are achievable in a day, but I look forward to discovering that Aug 09 00:54:07 * Morgan nods Aug 09 00:56:04 * Edward finishes his coffee "I am going back upstairs. I want to be there to see her wake up, no make up, hair all messed up, no time to pull her formal mask on" Aug 09 00:56:36 I'll see you for breakfast Aug 09 00:56:49 Don't count on it *he grins* Aug 09 00:57:10 * Morgan smiles, inclining his head Aug 09 00:58:21 * Morgan has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) Aug 09 01:14:00 * Edward has quit (Ping Timeout) Aug 09 02:59:08 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 03:16:11 * MollyK has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Aug 09 12:44:00 * Morgan (~mads@iMac-2.lan) has joined Aug 09 12:48:40 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 13:01:38 *he knows the house will soon be bustling as people get up for breakfast, especially those travelling out today. If he wants to make his sketch before he has to share the space in the house, he will need to look for the drawing things and find somewhere with light now rather than wait until after dawn* Aug 09 13:02:23 * Morgan does so Aug 09 13:04:13 **the library is empty but there is already a fire there. He finds what he needs in a desk drawer Aug 09 13:04:43 * Morgan sits down, starting Aug 09 13:06:24 *he gets ninety minutes, the sun slowly coming up and daylight come through the windows* Aug 09 13:09:24 /me looks at it before rolling it up and taking the things, heading up to his room Aug 09 13:11:21 ACTION is awake when he gets back, but only in the under layers of her clothes, hair done. She seems very pleased to see him Aug 09 13:11:22 Good morning, my love. Aug 09 13:11:22 * Received a CTCP from MollyK (to #7thsea) Aug 09 13:12:08 * Morgan kisses her crown as he passes, putting the drawing away in his trunk safely Aug 09 13:13:53 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 13:14:02 Last night was inspirational? Aug 09 13:14:34 Well... yes, but that's not what that drawing is Aug 09 13:15:21 What is it? Aug 09 13:15:35 * MollyK starts finding her dress Aug 09 13:17:06 Jana... but not as you've seen her Aug 09 13:18:06 I have only seen the painting of her that Otto has Aug 09 13:19:20 You've seen Florrie... she looks even more like her now Aug 09 13:19:27 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:19:37 They are both beautiful girls Aug 09 13:20:10 You dreamed of your life with Sen last night... Aug 09 13:20:17 I know Aug 09 13:20:58 What were you dreaming of when you spoke Thean? Aug 09 13:21:16 It was after that? Aug 09 13:21:23 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:21:29 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 13:21:57 The Vaticine Molly Rosenkrantz and her Father's headgroomsman Aug 09 13:22:22 Ah... well, _before_ that when you were getting soaked by the boys... Aug 09 13:22:43 * MollyK laughs Aug 09 13:23:00 Little monsters, the pair of them Aug 09 13:23:05 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:23:22 In that future, I had died saving Dietlinde and Jana... Aug 09 13:23:48 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:24:03 Yes, you had. This is not the first time I have dreamt that Aug 09 13:24:10 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:25:13 Madchen found me... across the hall from you Jana and Tomas were discussing names... Madchen let me see her, what she looked like all grown Aug 09 13:25:23 * MollyK sighs Aug 09 13:25:28 I am sorry, my love Aug 09 13:25:51 * Morgan shakes his head, smiling Aug 09 13:26:18 No... it was painful, certainly but... oh, I don't know how to explain it Aug 09 13:26:34 * MollyK comes to him, taking his hands Aug 09 13:26:38 Like a relief? Aug 09 13:26:57 A bit, yes... Aug 09 13:27:08 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:27:24 I can tell you what I can recall, if it would be of any help? Aug 09 13:27:32 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:27:44 If you are sure? I do not wish to pain you Aug 09 13:27:53 * MollyK shakes her head Aug 09 13:28:31 Now that I understand what the dreams are and why, they are just like little stories I might write about myself that are just imagination Aug 09 13:29:16 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:32:31 You had gotten in and gotten them out, but a beam fell. Heinzharold thought it had been instant, your skull was crushed. They were all devestated, and Sudlachenburg went into a period of mourning. At the end of that year, Edward married Mina, and Dietlinde and Heinzharold had found a strength and support in each other, united by their grief Aug 09 13:33:07 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:33:15 I saw the picture of the two of them together Aug 09 13:33:21 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:35:56 They had not married until Jana was around ten, and though Seb and I had visited Heinzharold we did not meet Dietlinde until just before the wedding. Sadly were not blessed with any more children. She had eluded to something having happened at the time of the fire that had made it impossible. Aug 09 13:37:05 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:38:58 Jana and Tomas had known each other as children briefly, but our lives got busy and then they reconnected through letters, and fell in love. Then they got married, and Seb and I had one last baby after they had twins. She was going to have another. Aug 09 13:39:24 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:39:29 She was pregnant when I saw her Aug 09 13:39:37 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:40:23 She became a lovely young woman. They were very happy, and very patient with those beastly children *she smiles* Aug 09 13:40:34 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:40:44 Maybe something to do with their names... Aug 09 13:40:52 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:41:32 I think that is quite likely. Little boys and magical water control was never going to go well Aug 09 13:41:42 * Morgan laughs Aug 09 13:41:48 No... no it wasn't Aug 09 13:42:14 Even the threat of Grunhelm did not stop them Aug 09 13:42:24 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:42:26 I saw Aug 09 13:44:13 He was not still alive, but Heinzharold used to tell them stories of Grunhelm the Terrible, a man of eight feet tall, who would come if grown ups said his name three times, turn them into rabbits, and put them in his pockets for all eternity Aug 09 13:45:12 I might tell his children that Aug 09 13:45:48 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:46:02 Does it sadden you? Aug 09 13:46:42 Yes and no Aug 09 13:46:55 How is it both? Aug 09 13:47:28 Sad that she never got to grow into that woman but... they'd have been alright... Aug 09 13:47:47 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:48:01 They loved you deeply, all three of them Aug 09 13:48:46 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:50:10 As happy as everyone was, I am glad I woke up to be here with you instead Aug 09 13:50:32 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:50:40 Me too Aug 09 13:51:12 There was no kissing, or anything like that Aug 09 13:51:25 * Morgan nods Aug 09 13:52:52 Not that anyone could risk that with those boys running wild! Aug 09 13:53:44 No, probably not Aug 09 13:53:54 Are you relieved? Aug 09 13:54:39 Some, aye... Aug 09 13:54:52 * MollyK nods Aug 09 13:55:12 How did _you_ sleep? Aug 09 13:55:22 * Morgan shrugs slightly Aug 09 13:55:23 dreams Aug 09 13:56:47 No nightmares? Aug 09 13:56:56 Not exactly Aug 09 13:59:02 You would prefer not to tell me... Aug 09 14:00:04 * Morgan shrugs, moving to the mirror, fiddling with his hair Aug 09 14:00:35 The thread where you were pregnant, we had taken in Florrie... the baby was coming Aug 09 14:01:01 * MollyK watches him Aug 09 14:01:23 Perhaps that is because of your discussion with Faulk? Aug 09 14:01:41 Maybe. I have reached the end of that thread, I think Aug 09 14:02:28 Because you knew it was a dream? Aug 09 14:02:38 I have reached that point, yes Aug 09 14:03:12 It sounds like it may have all worked out, despite the inauspicious start? Aug 09 14:03:33 Florrie spoke, HeinzHarold turned up, you gave birth to a boy Aug 09 14:04:04 * MollyK smiles slightly Aug 09 14:04:16 That does sounds nice Aug 09 14:05:54 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:05:58 It was Aug 09 14:06:03 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 14:06:18 I am glad you dreamt something so lovely Aug 09 14:07:20 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:07:41 That is rather odd to think about Aug 09 14:07:48 Oh? Aug 09 14:08:15 How different things could have been by now. Aug 09 14:09:38 But instead, we must wait but... Florrie was not mistreated, our relationships with our families are better than they were, we have time to build our nest and start making Eisen a safer place for when our children do come Aug 09 14:10:55 * MollyK nods Aug 09 14:11:21 Gottkirchen may well have fallen to civil war... Aug 09 14:11:31 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:12:02 I imagine there will be conflict but... hopefully we can deal with all that peacefully Aug 09 14:12:08 * MollyK nods Aug 09 14:12:56 I have been working on making good impressions on everyone here, so that they will be favourable to us should there be trouble Aug 09 14:13:57 * Morgan nods, tying the front part of his hair up Aug 09 14:15:00 That looks nice, my love Aug 09 14:15:11 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:15:13 It'll do Aug 09 14:15:25 How are you feeling about it today? Aug 09 14:15:39 angry Aug 09 14:15:56 * MollyK nods Aug 09 14:16:02 That is understandable Aug 09 14:16:10 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:16:58 Did Madchen explain how she knew? Aug 09 14:18:05 No... I didn't want to ask... I wanted to enjoy seeing her, and her me Aug 09 14:18:12 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 14:18:17 You love her... Aug 09 14:20:38 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:20:39 I do Aug 09 14:21:02 May I look at your hair? Aug 09 14:21:19 Be tough to stop you Aug 09 14:21:39 I meant to look it over properly Aug 09 14:22:46 * Morgan nods, sitting down Aug 09 14:24:11 * MollyK takes a brush, very gently brushing through the unbound part. It feels very different with being shorter Aug 09 14:24:42 Edward thinks perhaps cutting it shorter... Aug 09 14:25:23 I think it needs a little off anyway, it's not the most level of cuts I am afraid Aug 09 14:28:13 He's talking the same sort of length as HeinzHarolds Aug 09 14:29:07 If that would please you, my love Aug 09 14:29:25 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 14:29:42 I don't know yet. I was also considering keeping the top long and shaving the sides, like they do in Vesten Aug 09 14:29:55 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 14:30:17 I think that would suit you Aug 09 14:33:21 * MollyK comes around in front of him to kiss his crown. Her perfume is more noticeable this close "I will find you handsome no matter what you do with it" Aug 09 14:33:51 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:33:57 He says its not very ducal though Aug 09 14:34:09 Edward? Aug 09 14:35:02 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:36:59 I suppose not. Though I cannot imagine many would be in a position to tell you off Aug 09 14:37:44 No, I suppose not Aug 09 14:40:02 It is up to you, my love Aug 09 14:40:33 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:41:35 I'll think about it Aug 09 14:43:15 * MollyK nods Aug 09 14:43:54 I have checked the mirrors. Sudlachenburg is fine, everyone is happily preparing for Prophets Mass Aug 09 14:44:05 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:44:09 I had a thought... Aug 09 14:44:57 Oh? Aug 09 14:45:25 Your father fainted that day in church... Aug 09 14:45:58 * MollyK nods Aug 09 14:46:08 Yes he did. And so did Grendlik. Aug 09 14:46:57 So... what can they do.... Aug 09 14:47:55 My Father used to be able to perceive my moods. He can perceive my Mother's a little... Aug 09 14:48:02 * MollyK tilts her head Aug 09 14:48:19 What do you know of Grendlik's heritage? Aug 09 14:48:56 I know he was not able to have children... I know his father was a member of the order... I have his number, I'm going to try to find out who he was Aug 09 14:49:34 * MollyK looks surprised Aug 09 14:49:50 Oh! That was not what I was expecting, but it is interesting Aug 09 14:50:16 Oh? Aug 09 14:51:09 What do these people have in common; you, I, Varick, my Father, Jacques, Florrie, and Sinan Gottlieb? Aug 09 14:51:37 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 14:53:20 You are half Avalonian, half Eisen. As is my Father. Florrie and I are are three quarters Avalonian, one quarter Eisen... Aug 09 14:54:17 Jacques is half Montaigne... Varick half Ussuran... Sinan half crescent... Aug 09 14:55:09 * MollyK nods Aug 09 14:55:42 It is as if it had to be a mix. Aug 09 14:55:52 * Morgan nods slowly Aug 09 14:55:55 God knows why Aug 09 14:56:16 So, my question is... which of Grendlik's relatives is not Eisen. Aug 09 14:56:58 * Morgan nods Aug 09 14:57:09 See if we can find out shall we Aug 09 14:57:49 And also, did Rief faint, as he is part Ussuran and Eisen, or did it not happen because he already had magic? Aug 09 15:01:09 As I understand it, he did faint, though I'd have to check to be sure Aug 09 15:01:23 * MollyK nods Aug 09 15:01:37 * MollyK frowns slightly Aug 09 15:02:51 If Grendlik has developed it, and we know from Florrie that the susceptibility can be passed on from non-magic users, what might happen combining Jarvie's blood and his? Aug 09 15:04:30 * Morgan nods slowly Aug 09 15:04:32 possibly Aug 09 15:07:07 * MollyK smiles a little Aug 09 15:07:25 I am not overly concerned at present Aug 09 15:08:12 No, nor am I Aug 09 15:11:05 * MollyK nods Aug 09 15:11:40 Let's deal with our present issues, shall we? Especially now that we have our plan for the next three years in order. Aug 09 15:12:31 * Morgan nods Aug 09 15:13:47 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 15:14:13 I had best get dressed, I thought I would see if Mina wants help with her hair... Aug 09 15:14:33 Uhhh... I believe Edward was planning to be with her when she wakes. Aug 09 15:15:28 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 15:15:37 I do not mind doing it with an audience Aug 09 15:16:18 No but he might... Aug 09 15:16:28 * MollyK blushes Aug 09 15:16:36 Oh! I hadn't realised! Aug 09 15:17:33 He told me I am changing him... he's been making more of an effort to thank the staff and not take their efforts for granted since I told him off for it Aug 09 15:20:34 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 15:20:52 I am glad. It will make his job as Freiarr much easier Aug 09 15:22:54 I agree Aug 09 15:23:53 Maybe I will give them ten minutes then... Aug 09 15:24:00 * Morgan nods Aug 09 15:24:01 aye Aug 09 15:25:54 * MollyK kisses his cheek Aug 09 15:26:14 That would be nowhere near long enough for us though, my love Aug 09 15:27:25 No, it wouldn't Aug 09 15:27:44 * MollyK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Aug 09 15:31:36 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 15:31:41 [15:15:03] MollyK: That would be nowhere near long enough for us though, my love Aug 09 15:33:30 No, it wouldn't Aug 09 15:34:57 * MollyK puts her dress on Aug 09 15:35:15 What is to happen with his body? Aug 09 15:37:00 * MollyK giggles "Rief's, not Edward's!" Aug 09 15:37:21 I don't know yet. Mina is adamant someone needs to go and tell his father Aug 09 15:38:08 * MollyK looks at him Aug 09 15:38:23 Should I put trousers beneath this? Aug 09 15:39:15 For... Aug 09 15:39:40 Going to the mountains Aug 09 15:41:06 No. I'm not having you wandering around up there when I have no intention of going... not today anyway Aug 09 15:41:18 * MollyK 's brows raise Aug 09 15:41:32 Who do you propose goes instead? Aug 09 15:41:53 If needs be, I'll go tomorrow Aug 09 15:42:17 * MollyK looks at him Aug 09 15:42:20 Not alone. Aug 09 15:42:29 * Morgan shakes his head Aug 09 15:42:31 No. Aug 09 15:42:49 Who do you intend to take? Aug 09 15:43:18 I have not considered it yet Aug 09 15:43:33 * MollyK starts doing her laces Aug 09 15:43:36 I am coming. Aug 09 15:44:04 Maybe. Perhaps Claudia will want to go, she's not killed anything lately Aug 09 15:46:40 * MollyK inhales through her nose Aug 09 15:46:53 I will be coming with you. Aug 09 15:47:08 We will fight about this? Aug 09 15:47:28 That depends on you, does it not? *she watches him* Aug 09 15:48:29 We will discuss it later Aug 09 15:48:55 * MollyK watches him a moment longer before resuming her task Aug 09 15:49:22 If you are not intending to do that today, what were you intending? Aug 09 15:49:49 I've got to bury an acorn... then I thought I'd spend some time with my family, all of it Aug 09 15:51:53 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 15:52:02 Alright, my love Aug 09 15:52:42 Though I may speak to Edward, get his input on telling Rief's father. If he feels it needs to be done today... Aug 09 15:54:11 Then that is what must be done. Aug 09 15:54:18 * MollyK ties off her laces Aug 09 15:54:46 * Morgan nods Aug 09 15:55:33 Liebes herz? Aug 09 15:56:23 Yes? Aug 09 15:59:00 You do realise what yesterday means...? Aug 09 15:59:19 * Morgan scratches at his chin Aug 09 15:59:21 What? Aug 09 16:00:50 I did not have to touch him... Aug 09 16:02:23 Edward? Aug 09 16:03:24 * MollyK shakes his head Aug 09 16:03:29 Her* Aug 09 16:03:41 To harm Rief. I did not have to touch. Aug 09 16:04:35 * Morgan blinks Aug 09 16:04:38 That had not occurred to me Aug 09 16:05:07 * MollyK nods Aug 09 16:05:19 It has been playing on my mind, I must admit Aug 09 16:12:35 It troubles you Aug 09 16:13:30 * MollyK nods Aug 09 16:13:34 Of course Aug 09 16:13:54 Why? Aug 09 16:15:53 How dangerous am I now? How much more risk to others? Aug 09 16:16:25 Have you tried the opposite? Aug 09 16:17:17 No. I assumed it impossible, but seeing you hurt like that... Aug 09 16:25:01 * Morgan nods Aug 09 16:26:52 * MollyK sighs Aug 09 16:27:05 You see now why I will be coming with you? Aug 09 16:38:22 Because you fear being.a danger here, or because you will be dangerous to anyone who tries to harm me? Aug 09 16:38:33 The latter Aug 09 16:39:35 * Morgan nods Aug 09 16:40:17 I think the need for practice to control our abilities when we are under stress is more clear than ever... it seems a common theme now Aug 09 16:41:42 * MollyK nods Aug 09 16:42:07 We have the magic because we have needed it and will need it... that is what the Nibelungen said Aug 09 16:42:16 * Morgan nods Aug 09 16:44:07 * MollyK puts on her boots Aug 09 16:44:15 It is what it is, I suppose Aug 09 16:45:18 * Morgan nods Aug 09 16:45:29 aye Aug 09 16:46:52 I was not out of control. It was intentional, I was just... stronger. Aug 09 16:47:23 * Morgan nods Aug 09 16:47:29 Then why does it trouble you so? Aug 09 16:49:18 I do not know. It just does. It seems so ungentle Aug 09 16:50:11 You worry it will change my view of you Aug 09 16:51:36 * MollyK nods, looking a little pained Aug 09 16:52:04 This is not what you signed up for... I should be a bringer of life, not a destroyer of it. Aug 09 16:52:28 * Morgan moves to her Aug 09 16:53:20 It is not different to using a sword. You protected someone you love from harm, nothing more. _you_ have not changed, neither in my eyes nor in reality Aug 09 16:53:47 * MollyK shrugs slightly, looking vulnerable Aug 09 16:53:53 I am being silly, I know Aug 09 16:55:34 No, my love, there has been a shift and you are unsure of yourself, and of me. Nothing has changed for me, you are still the woman I turned my back on heaven for, the woman who will raise my children wonderfully, the woman I yearn for when we are only feet apart. Aug 09 16:58:25 * MollyK looks utterly surprised by this, and with a complete loss of what to say just moves to him and kisses him hard Aug 09 16:59:01 * Morgan returns her kiss Aug 09 17:01:03 * MollyK stays like this, pressing into him as if she would be even closer, beneath his clothes, beneath his skin, beneath his ribs until she is almost a part of him. But it's not like when she flung herself at him in Faulk's stables, it' emotional rather than sexual Aug 09 17:02:13 * Morgan gently rocks her, not moving away Aug 09 17:06:17 * MollyK parts her mouth from his Aug 09 17:06:32 I'm sorry... I got a little carried away Aug 09 17:06:54 * Morgan smiles slightly Aug 09 17:07:12 That may have been my intent... but my words remain the truth Aug 09 17:08:14 * MollyK goes on her tiptoes to bring her forehead to his like they were last night at the end Aug 09 17:08:53 I have no words to wow you with now, only that I love you, I love you, I love you. Aug 09 17:10:08 You wow me just by being you my love Aug 09 17:10:20 * MollyK smiles Aug 09 17:10:27 I could not be otherwise Aug 09 17:11:16 * Morgan nods Aug 09 17:11:24 Shall we find our son and go and get some breakfast? Aug 09 17:11:47 * MollyK nods "mmhmm... the first of many" Aug 09 17:15:50 Breakfasts? Aug 09 17:16:03 Sons. Aug 09 17:16:57 * Morgan nods Aug 09 18:00:59 * MollyK has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) Aug 09 18:02:40 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 18:03:00 ACTION weaves her fingers through his, and they find a lively Varick up and dressed, talking about how he is going to train Diana to understand Peaches signals so he doesn't poo on the floor again. HH and Inga are ready too, as are the others across the hall, so soon Morgan finds himself sharing breakfast with his family, an Eisenfurst, and a Aug 09 18:03:01 hoarde of nobles and hangers-on. Only Claudia, who hates this sort of thing, and the bride and groom are missing* Aug 09 18:03:07 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht Aug 09 18:03:20 * Adalbrecht is very cheerful Aug 09 18:03:30 Has anyone seen Edward and Mina? Aug 09 18:03:42 * Morgan nods Aug 09 18:03:56 Tallish man, dark hair, serious face most of the time... Aug 09 18:04:04 * Adalbrecht laughs Aug 09 18:04:30 HH chuckles: What you found was a mi-rr-or. Aug 09 18:05:43 I said serious, not dour Aug 09 18:25:30 *This makes them laugh, aside from Molly beside who looks like she's daydreaming, and Varick who says "what does dour mean?" Aug 09 18:25:53 Ummm... sort of grumpy Aug 09 18:30:46 *Varick nods, eating. Edward and Mina arrive. They both look smart and very happy, confident. Everyone claps for them, and Edward seats Mina next to her Father. Lots of good mornings are said. The atmosphere is nice, and though the gestures are subtle like with Adalbrecht and Verity, Edward is clearly smitten as he is able to sit beside her at his Aug 09 18:30:46 ease* Aug 09 18:37:36 * Morgan smiles at them briefly Aug 09 18:40:21 *The conversation at the table turns to who is staying and going. Faulk announces that he will leave before dinner to go to his house across town with Stef and Colonel Fuchs. DeeDee, Witts and Wonks are planning to go tomorrow, as are Dekker and Diana. Edward tries to insist that they stay a few more days, to wait until after Prophets Mass, but he Aug 09 18:40:21 isn't making much progress. Zench and Heidi accept, and Potts says he will decide later, because he doesn't have any pressing commitments at any time anywhere. The rest of the nobles are all planning to travel today where Graf Goren is hosting a large Christmas party. He seems vaguely out out that Faulk is not going to his Party. Christopher is Aug 09 18:40:21 staying until the new year, as are Verity and Adalbrecht, and Jarvie and Grendlik are then going to Die Dauerhaftigkeit with them. Aug 09 18:41:39 *Morgan can see a little hint around Edward's eyes that happy as he is that he has finally gotten married, the planned departure of all his loved ones from Graben in a couple of weeks is painful* Aug 09 18:45:58 * Morgan looks at him sympathetically Aug 09 18:46:23 *Edward inclines his head slightly* Aug 09 18:50:41 *After breakfast there's a move to the morning room where there is tea and coffee. Most of the other people are busy preparing to leave or talking with Edward, Mina and Joseff, and Edward's friends have gone for a walk. Morgan has a book in his lap, as does Adalbrecht. Varick is playing marbles by the fire. By the window, sewing and quietly Aug 09 18:50:41 gossiping, Molly, Mina, Stef and Inga are sat around a little table. The sound of giggling makes Adalbrecht look up, puzzled. He speaks quietly to Morgan Aug 09 18:50:41 What do you think they are talking about? Aug 09 18:56:48 Edwards performance Aug 09 19:21:10 * Adalbrecht has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Aug 09 19:32:40 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 19:33:05 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht Aug 09 19:33:48 But they seem so delighted about it? Aug 09 19:34:48 * Morgan nods Aug 09 19:34:59 It is a bonding experience for women Aug 09 19:35:09 * Adalbrecht watches them with fascination. They don't notice Aug 09 19:35:21 To discuss _that_? Aug 09 19:39:45 * Morgan nods Aug 09 19:40:21 I always assumed they were just gossiping Aug 09 19:40:33 Thats a bonding experience too Aug 09 19:40:47 * Adalbrecht sighs Aug 09 19:40:54 You young people. Aug 09 19:41:15 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 19:41:23 Don't look at me, I keep myself to myself Aug 09 19:42:29 * Adalbrecht nods. Molly whispers something to Mina that makes them both giggle. Adalbrecht is still frowning. Aug 09 19:42:59 They do not look like they feel importuned by it at all! Aug 09 19:43:12 * Morgan nods Aug 09 19:43:23 No, they don't Aug 09 19:43:55 And Mina is a _noblewoman_. Aug 09 19:44:19 So is my wife... Aug 09 19:44:40 Well yes, but it is not the same Aug 09 19:46:19 * Morgan brings his full attention to his father slowly Aug 09 19:46:45 * Adalbrecht is still watching the women Aug 09 19:46:55 I beg your pardon? Aug 09 19:47:09 I said it is not the same Aug 09 19:47:28 I heard what you said... and I picked up on what you _meant_ Aug 09 19:48:06 That she was not raised noble. Yes Aug 09 19:48:52 No... she was not raised with her nose in the air... Aug 09 19:49:08 * Adalbrecht now looks to him Aug 09 19:49:25 What do you mean by that? Aug 09 19:50:24 * Morgan blinks slowly Aug 09 19:50:52 It sounds awfully like you are belittling my wife... that she doesn't count as nobility really... Aug 09 19:51:24 And it sounds awfully like you are disparaging your mother and sister. Aug 09 19:52:06 *Varick glances up a moment before going back to his marbles* Aug 09 19:55:53 * Morgan closes his book quietly, placing it on the arm of his chair before getting up and heading out of the room Aug 09 19:58:17 *he spots Claudia in the hall* Aug 09 19:58:23 * Adalbrecht is now known as Claudia Aug 09 19:58:32 * Claudia looks at his expression Aug 09 19:58:41 * Morgan is obviously annoyed Aug 09 19:58:49 Walk? Aug 09 19:58:54 * Morgan nods Aug 09 19:59:47 *they head out around the estate away from the coachyard where working is happening* Aug 09 20:00:00 Who is getting a smack today? Aug 09 20:00:20 My father opens his mouth again, him... Aug 09 20:00:34 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:00:40 What's he done? Aug 09 20:01:32 Pissed me off Aug 09 20:02:58 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:03:09 Don't want to talk? Aug 09 20:03:40 He's just being closed minded and judgemental with a stick up his backside Aug 09 20:05:23 I thought he was getting better Aug 09 20:05:30 So did I Aug 09 20:05:42 When I'm less likely to belt him, I'll talk to him about it Aug 09 20:05:49 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:05:57 How are you otherwise? Aug 09 20:06:12 * Morgan rubs his face Aug 09 20:06:49 Conflicted. I dreamed of a future where I'd saved Dietlinde and Jana but I died.. I saw Jana grown, pregnant. Aug 09 20:06:59 Rough Aug 09 20:07:45 Not as much as you'd think... Its comforting to know if it had gone that way, they'd have been alright Aug 09 20:08:15 Even though you'd have been dead and not seen it? Aug 09 20:08:22 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:09:44 I know, it doesn't make sense Aug 09 20:09:52 No shit. Aug 09 20:10:57 Its cathartic, I think Aug 09 20:11:15 You're gonna have to explain that to me Aug 09 20:11:29 * Morgan sighs Aug 09 20:12:59 They're at peace now... If I'd saved them and died, they'd have been alright. Its not the way I would have chosen, but they aren't lingering... I think... its time I start trying to let go of the pain, Dietlinde wouldn't want me clinging to it as I do. Aug 09 20:13:14 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:13:29 Who would want that for someone they loved, really? Aug 09 20:13:56 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:15:04 The grief is easier to feel, though. Easier to hold on to, to start with anyway Aug 09 20:15:19 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:15:53 You have to live. You've seen what happens when you die now, I guess, so you know it won't be forever. Aug 09 20:18:01 Been thinking about that... Aug 09 20:18:12 And? Aug 09 20:19:12 Why would it be? Aug 09 20:19:31 What do you mean? Aug 09 20:22:49 I think there is an expectation that I would rather be with them than with Molly Aug 09 20:24:09 Not from me, I think when you're dead there's nothing anyway Aug 09 20:24:42 I respect that. Aug 09 20:25:08 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:25:23 Who expects it? Aug 09 20:25:36 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 20:26:57 Everyone I think. Who is to say heaven for me is with Dietlinde and Jana... what if what I saw was my mind accepting that I was dying... Aug 09 20:27:19 You think maybe it _was_ just your mind? Aug 09 20:28:34 I think being without Molly is not my idea of heaven Aug 09 20:28:51 * Claudia shrugs Aug 09 20:28:53 Fair enough Aug 09 20:30:13 regardless... its time to stop hiding behind the grief... or to try anyway Aug 09 20:30:32 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:30:37 Sounds good to me Aug 09 20:30:55 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:32:09 Is he going today? Aug 09 20:32:29 My father? Aug 09 20:32:42 No, that irritating lieutenant Aug 09 20:33:11 Tomorrow. Aug 09 20:33:16 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:33:34 I assumed Edward was the worst of them, but I have changed my mind Aug 09 20:34:06 Why does he bother you so? Aug 09 20:34:13 * Claudia shrugs Aug 09 20:34:20 I just don't like him Aug 09 20:34:27 Horseshit Aug 09 20:34:38 His face annoys me Aug 09 20:35:16 Because you like it Aug 09 20:35:39 Urgh. Shut up, Morgan. *she shoves him* Aug 09 20:35:59 * Morgan lets her Aug 09 20:37:05 That's like saying you like Pottersdam Aug 09 20:37:47 I have a begrudging respect for him... though he could be so much better. Aug 09 20:38:06 Yes, if someone gagged him. Aug 09 20:38:43 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 20:39:32 [I am having to explain the birds and the bees.] Aug 09 20:39:41 [to who?] Aug 09 20:39:51 [your Father.] Aug 09 20:40:16 [I see] Aug 09 20:40:56 [I have told him the pie likes being filled with cream as much as the baker likes putting it in there.] Aug 09 20:42:38 [I imagine that has gone down wonderfully ] Aug 09 20:42:47 * Morgan sighs Aug 09 20:42:57 Edward is going to pay you for training the guards Aug 09 20:44:22 [I was teasing you. I have told him that most women, providing their husbands are kind, generous, and understanding, do not feel importuned at all by a loving husband, even noble ones.] Aug 09 20:44:28 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:44:35 Good Aug 09 20:45:15 He's glad you're training them... they might have a chance against something more difficult than a straw man then Aug 09 20:45:25 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:45:31 I have seen worse. Barely. Aug 09 20:45:44 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:45:54 I think they'd struggle against an aggressive chicken Aug 09 20:46:05 * Claudia laughs Aug 09 20:46:36 [he told me you are at odds] Aug 09 20:46:55 [did he tell you why?] Aug 09 20:47:31 [that he inadvertently said I am not as good as Mina] Aug 09 20:47:42 [didn't seem that inadvertent to me] Aug 09 20:48:27 [he says it was. Guests are leaving soon, Edward is hoping you will be back to say goodbye] Aug 09 20:48:38 Mind you, those feathery bastards are nasty Aug 09 20:48:58 I would take ten chickens over one goose Aug 09 20:50:58 Two bloody right. I'd better get back, people are leaving soon and it'd help if I did the whole noble bit to see them off Aug 09 20:51:18 With a rifle... Aug 09 20:51:56 Tempting for some of them Aug 09 20:52:08 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:52:19 In Kiev you can do that Aug 09 20:52:44 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:53:05 Thank you for visiting, you can go now... click... click... Aug 09 20:53:15 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:53:41 Makes sense Aug 09 20:54:17 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:54:19 I thought so Aug 09 20:54:31 although... I'm not living in Kiev Aug 09 20:55:42 No? Aug 09 20:55:52 Dekker has accepted my offer to buy his house Aug 09 20:56:00 * Claudia smiles Aug 09 20:56:08 I'm really pleased for you Aug 09 20:56:14 * Morgan smiles Aug 09 20:56:26 Thank you... its not a bad place to have a shack... Aug 09 20:56:36 Or a small house. Aug 09 20:57:18 When do you move in? Aug 09 20:58:07 Assuming I haven't knocked his face off by then, my father is going to oversee the completion of the purchase, then it'll take some time for Dekker to find somewhere... then I suppose the next time we're back... Aug 09 20:58:30 * Claudia is moving in the direction of the coachyard Aug 09 20:58:51 Good for you. Molly pleased? Aug 09 20:59:21 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:59:22 thrilled Aug 09 20:59:34 * Claudia nods Aug 09 20:59:39 And you? Aug 09 20:59:52 * Morgan nods Aug 09 20:59:56 I am pleased Aug 09 21:27:23 * Claudia has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) Aug 09 21:27:40 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 21:28:23 * Claudia ditches him before they get there. it is time for the guests to leave, most of whom are joining the long procession to Goren which has much better onward links to the north and south. The family are outside to say goodbyes. As he has seen her do before, Molly seems to be able to recall names and personal details for each of them, asking Aug 09 21:28:23 them if they are going to their specific towns and villages for the season. They seem pleased to be known by the Duchess* Aug 09 21:29:21 * Morgan watches her, making quiet small talk as and when required Aug 09 21:30:22 ACTION seems at ease. Adalbrecht, Verity, Mina, Edward, and Faulk are all doing their bit too. Whilst they are doing this, he spots HH and Heidi from the corner of his eye over by a wall, talking quietly. It's too far for him to even lip read** Aug 09 21:30:23 * Received a CTCP from MollyK (to #7thsea) Aug 09 21:31:19 * Morgan wanders closer discreetly Aug 09 21:32:31 *Verity calls to him* Dear boy, Graf Goren is leaving... Aug 09 21:33:25 * Morgan comes over to them, inclining his head to Graf Goren Aug 09 21:33:38 I'm sorry we did not find time to get to know eachother Aug 09 21:34:54 GG: Your Excellencies would be most welcome to visit us and see Goren when it is convenient. I like to be on good terms with the other Grafs of the Konigsreich Aug 09 21:35:38 * MollyK is saying goodbye to Grafin Goren, Faulk and the others are all by other carriages. He spots movement from the corner of his eye Aug 09 21:35:48 * Morgan glances over Aug 09 21:36:19 *Heidi is gone, and HH is heading his direction, putting something in his pocket* Aug 09 21:37:16 We are sadly quite busy but at our first opportunity we will come to see you Aug 09 21:37:34 **The Graf looks pleased by this. When the last carriage has pulled out ten minutes later. Faulk looks to Edward. Aug 09 21:37:34 My Lord, I will be commandeering your library for the next few hours. If you can assign me a butler to send for those I want to speak to, I would be grateful. Aug 09 21:37:34 *Edward inclines his head* Yes, your Grace, I will see to that immediately. Aug 09 21:37:59 * Morgan looks round for HeinzHarold Aug 09 21:39:02 /nick HH Aug 09 21:39:08 * MollyK is now known as HH Aug 09 21:40:03 *Faulk looks around, and beckons to HH* Lehenstreue, you will join me in fifteen minutes in the library Aug 09 21:40:03 *HH bows* yes, your Grace. *Edward and Faulk go in, Mina on her husband's arm, Verity and Adalbrecht following. Molly comes to Morgan's side* Aug 09 21:40:46 * HH looks to Morgan "Summat about being called that makes me feel like I'm walkin' into a trap" Aug 09 21:41:02 What did she give you? Aug 09 21:41:20 Nothin. Aug 09 21:41:48 So what did you put in your pocket? Aug 09 21:42:05 *Molly watches Morgan* who are we talking about, my love? Aug 09 21:42:53 * Morgan looks at HeinzHarold Aug 09 21:42:56 Heidi Aug 09 21:43:06 On a bit of a top secret mission, see? Aug 09 21:43:37 That thong you put in your pocket... she give it to you? Aug 09 21:43:57 Nope Aug 09 21:44:58 * Morgan looks up at the house Aug 09 21:45:00 *Molly watches the two of them* Aug 09 21:45:45 M: Shall we get some coffee before Heinzharold has to see His Grace? Aug 09 21:46:00 * Morgan nods Aug 09 21:46:37 I need t' go see Inga first. Might have to have one later Aug 09 21:48:03 M: She is in the drawing room with Diana and Peaches Aug 09 21:49:36 * Morgan nods Aug 09 21:49:55 * HH inclines his head before going indoors Aug 09 21:53:16 * HH is now known as Molly Aug 09 21:53:26 What is going on, my love? Aug 09 21:54:16 He's acting weird around Heidi... repeatedly Aug 09 21:54:29 * Molly frowns Aug 09 21:54:42 You think he is attracted to her? Aug 09 21:55:57 It seems so to me. Aug 09 21:56:35 Hmm. Aug 09 21:56:53 Is this how he behaves when he is attracted to someone? Aug 09 21:57:28 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 21:58:14 * Molly thinks Aug 09 21:58:19 He's never had a commitment like Inga before, so its hard to say Aug 09 21:58:28 He seems decidedly cagey to me Aug 09 21:58:45 I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now... Aug 09 21:59:53 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:01:48 ... but if he hurts Inga, there will be trouble. Aug 09 22:02:00 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:02:01 quite Aug 09 22:02:58 * Molly sighs Aug 09 22:03:31 He wouldn't, would he? If a couple like they are could fall foul of temptation... Aug 09 22:04:00 You don't need to worry about us blossom Aug 09 22:05:17 * Molly smiles Aug 09 22:05:21 I know Aug 09 22:05:57 *there's a yapping sound Aug 09 22:06:05 * Morgan mutters Aug 09 22:06:07 Oh joy Aug 09 22:08:08 *Varick comes along, chasing the dog* Papa, we are going for a walk! Aug 09 22:08:57 * Molly smiles Aug 09 22:09:12 Who is? Aug 09 22:09:16 Shall we, my love? Aug 09 22:09:45 V: You can come too, Papa Aug 09 22:10:22 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:10:24 I suppose so Aug 09 22:11:18 * Molly walks on his arm for quite a while. The dog is at least obedient to Varick, and seems friendly if stupid Aug 09 22:11:57 I think my discussion with your Father might have trumped your needing to explain to him... Aug 09 22:12:27 Oh? Aug 09 22:13:37 He seems to believe that noble women are somehow much more delicate and refined, and therefore to be protected from the baser instincts of all men, even those with kindly intent Aug 09 22:14:17 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:15:31 I think it likely something he has grown up with, but from what Edward has said before, your grandparents were not fond of each other at all, and so such would have been unwelcome Aug 09 22:16:40 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:16:44 I suppose you might be right Aug 09 22:17:04 I was rather at a loss for what to say! Aug 09 22:18:23 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:18:28 What did you say? Aug 09 22:20:09 That it is perfectly natural and normal... if you and he had not been at odds I would have sent him to ask you instead! Aug 09 22:21:23 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:21:59 How am I supposed to know what to say?! *she smiles, embarrassed* Aug 09 22:23:01 * Molly glances at his expression Aug 09 22:23:14 * Morgan still looks serious Aug 09 22:23:55 What I would say to any other man is to tell his wife what he has been told, and have an honest discussion with her, but... Aug 09 22:24:41 Perhaps that is what he should do Aug 09 22:25:28 Do you think I should say so? What if he is right and such frankness is unwanted? Aug 09 22:26:06 * Morgan shrugs Aug 09 22:26:07 I don't know Aug 09 22:26:15 * Molly frowns slightly Aug 09 22:26:25 You are brooding, my love? Aug 09 22:26:44 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:26:45 I am Aug 09 22:26:57 About Heinzharold, or your Father? Aug 09 22:27:24 Both Aug 09 22:27:39 * Molly kisses his knuckles Aug 09 22:28:02 You and your Father can make up, and I will see if I can find out anything from Inga Aug 09 22:29:08 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:32:50 *Varick seems to have trained Peaches to do all manner of tricks, and so an impromptu display is given to his parents. It goes on so long that the bell for lunch rings, and they have to go in. The dining hall is much quieter with most of the noble guests shuffled off, but Faulk doesn't join them, and at present Potts is missing too. Joseff is sat Aug 09 22:32:51 at the head of the table, and he says to Morgan who is next to him "Where is Maria? She should be here for lunch." Aug 09 22:33:07 *Mina and Molly exchange a look sadly* Aug 09 22:38:00 * Morgan watches Mina sympathetically Aug 09 22:39:31 I think she is resting quietly... its been a busy couple of days hasn't it Aug 09 22:43:32 * MollyK (~igloo@31.185.35.52) has joined Aug 09 22:43:32 * Molly has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Aug 09 22:46:11 *Josef nods, eating happily. Potts comes in, and Witts goes in his place. The meal is quite nice, but he can see Edward and Mina clock-watching to excuse themselves. At one, they finally do so with an instruction to make themselves at home. They're barely out of the room before Varick is yawning* Aug 09 22:46:38 V: Papa, is it nap time now? Aug 09 22:46:43 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:46:45 Yes, it is Aug 09 22:47:16 *Inga smiles at Morgan* Heinzharold and I will take him up and keep an ear out, if you like? Aug 09 22:47:40 No, I'll take him Aug 09 22:47:52 [perhaps a chance to talk to Inga?] Aug 09 22:48:07 [Alright, my love] Aug 09 22:48:39 *Adalbrecht stands up] I will walk up with you, Morgan, there is something I want to check anyway Aug 09 22:49:31 * Morgan nods, picking Varick up Aug 09 22:49:45 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht Aug 09 22:50:10 *Varick is already asleep by the time they get there* Aug 09 22:51:01 * Morgan puts him in his bed, coming back out and closing the door quietly Aug 09 22:52:05 I want to apologise. I did not make it clear what I meant, and I understand that making comments about Molly's nobility would be painful for you, coming from me Aug 09 22:52:21 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:52:31 I didn't want to argue, which is why I left Aug 09 22:52:42 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 22:52:45 And now? Aug 09 22:53:01 * Morgan smiles slightly Aug 09 22:53:34 I still don't wish to argue. I was angry. I felt you were saying Molly was not noble enough for you, that it doesn't count... Aug 09 22:53:51 I love Molly, as you well know. Aug 09 22:54:06 * Morgan nods Aug 09 22:54:09 I know Aug 09 22:54:59 Then I hope you will try to bear that in mind in future. I am very pleased with your choice in her, and that will not change Aug 09 22:55:42 I was not disparaging anyone... nobility or not they take great pleasure in those sort of conversations Aug 09 22:56:13 I thought it was just men like Edward's friends, and ladies of the night. Aug 09 22:56:28 * Morgan shakes his head Aug 09 22:57:24 * Adalbrecht sighs Aug 09 22:57:55 It is not easy, being the one who none of this talk comes naturally too. Aug 09 22:58:11 It does not come easily to me either Aug 09 22:58:23 Yet you are not floundering Aug 09 22:59:44 I'm glad you think so Aug 09 23:00:01 I do. Aug 09 23:01:12 I am not particularly comfortable discussing those sort of things Aug 09 23:02:06 Hope do I make that easier? I do not like that I must be a source of embarrassment to you and your brother Aug 09 23:06:54 Edward is more concerned that you will be embarrassed or disapprove I think Aug 09 23:08:35 I am and I do. Aug 09 23:10:56 How can I help with that? Aug 09 23:11:40 I do not know. How have you made progress? Aug 09 23:12:41 Do you _want_ to progress? The disapproval is the biggest obstacle Aug 09 23:13:57 I would like to not feel as uncomfortable. But I do not see I can ever come to approve of men being so intimate with any woman who is not his wife Aug 09 23:15:14 I find that one a little difficult... when my platoon visited brothels, do you know what I did? Aug 09 23:15:21 No? Aug 09 23:17:20 Sat on the doorstep and sketched. Never even went into one of them until relatively recently, and that was to speak to someone who was visiting there... my viewpoint on brothels is complicated, so I try not to think about it Aug 09 23:17:37 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:20:19 When I had no choice but to attend, I would keep my eyes on the floor and sit and read. Sometimes I paid to have someone say that I had done something that I had not, or Yensid would provide a tale for me. I have tried not to be so stilted at times with you, but I am always aware that I am unsure of myself Aug 09 23:21:28 * Morgan stops, looking at him Aug 09 23:21:38 I have never pictured you as unsure of yourself Aug 09 23:21:50 * Adalbrecht smiles Aug 09 23:22:10 It happens more than I would like to admit Aug 09 23:23:40 That surprises me greatly Aug 09 23:24:37 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:25:24 I have been unsure of things many times. Sometimes that has helped me make better decisions, and sometimes I have ignored it and rushed in Aug 09 23:26:46 * Morgan nods, resuming walking Aug 09 23:27:38 What about you, Morgan? How often are you unsure of yourself? Aug 09 23:28:24 Its a common occurrence for me Aug 09 23:28:31 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:29:35 What would you advise if I was aiming to reduce my disapproval of their coarse and callous way of speaking about something so sacred and important? Aug 09 23:33:26 Its bravado. Thats all it is. Pottersdam, while he is prolific in his womanising, always takes care of his mistresses... Zench is quite clearly besotted with Heidi... DeeDee is something of an idiot and has quite a thing for Claudia... but what happens with them is always between consenting adults which, if no-one is hurt, is noones business but theirs I think Aug 09 23:34:20 But one could say that about someone else, and the consequence was a child without a father Aug 09 23:35:08 That situation is more complicated Aug 09 23:35:38 But it is illustrative of what loose morals around intimacy make cause Aug 09 23:37:58 Perhaps. But aside from making you uncomfortable and possibly causing friction between you and, say, Pottersdam, what good does disapproving of it do? Aug 09 23:38:27 Maybe they might change their ways? Aug 09 23:39:09 Do you not think that somewhat naive? Aug 09 23:39:18 * Adalbrecht sighs Aug 09 23:39:21 Probably Aug 09 23:40:04 * Morgan nods Aug 09 23:40:51 I had thought maybe they led Edward astray, but I see now it was Karsten all along Aug 09 23:41:06 * Morgan nods Aug 09 23:41:25 It puts me in a tough position Aug 09 23:41:32 Why? Aug 09 23:42:34 Because Varick idolised him... I would not cause him the pain of finding out what he was really like, the things he did but... I'm not sure I can pretend he was the wonderful person he remembers him as Aug 09 23:43:56 [Inga is not worried. She knows what they were talking about and what is in his pocket, and she knows that although her feistiness is amusing to him he finds her not particularly attractive, and certainly not compared to Inga herself] Aug 09 23:44:10 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:44:18 He is not ready for that truth Aug 09 23:45:19 Not by a long way Aug 09 23:46:15 He will in time forget some of that. You will stand in that stead, and by the time he is a man he will remember you as his father Aug 09 23:46:51 * Morgan nods Aug 09 23:47:25 If you try to recall your grandfather, can you remember much of him? Aug 09 23:47:47 Not a great deal, no... Aug 09 23:50:01 You idolised him. He taught you your first knots, and encouraged your love of ships. He was still at War until the end, and he brought you home a scrap of old sail when you were about five. You slept with it until you lost it. You talked about him every day. You were older than Varick was when he died Aug 09 23:51:12 * Morgan nods Aug 09 23:52:12 Varick will forget some of the intensity of his idolisation. Like you, he will come to learn the truths and be able to handle them, when he is ready Aug 09 23:52:25 I hope so Aug 09 23:52:32 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:53:04 I know you will steer him right. He loves you and Molly greatly. You are the calm stability he has never had Aug 09 23:53:34 We try Aug 09 23:53:46 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:53:53 You are excellent parents Aug 09 23:54:37 I certainly had an excellent example of follow Aug 09 23:55:21 In your Mother, yes. I have had my short-comings, but I hope to do better from now on Aug 09 23:55:32 * Morgan frowns Aug 09 23:55:59 You underestimate yourself, and do yourself an injustice Aug 09 23:56:28 A man who is too certain of his own success is not a man who learns from his mistakes Aug 09 23:57:57 * Morgan nods Aug 09 23:58:32 Edward and I, the depth of our love and devotion to our wives... we get that from you... Aug 09 23:58:39 * Adalbrecht nods Aug 09 23:58:56 I only hope Edward can sustain that, given his past