**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 19 19:32:50 2022 Jun 19 19:32:50 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 19 19:32:51 * MollyK has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) Jun 19 19:32:56 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 19 19:35:49 *the market square is quite busy, many traders there with wares. He spots her by her hair, over at a table with Inga. Jacques And Varick are watching from the edge, and HH is with Rickon. Morgan can also see Henning with his wife Anya, Ghalen talking to a couple of young men around his age whilst some girls stand nearish watching him, and Heinrich Jun 19 19:35:50 talking to a middle aged man. Jun 19 19:37:13 * Morgan watches Heinrich and the man for a few moments Jun 19 19:38:04 *the man looks a little troubled, Heinrich looks to have the situation in hand* Jun 19 19:39:18 * Morgan wanders slowly through the people, greeting people as he does Jun 19 19:40:38 *everyone who is shopping is friendly and wants to greet him. The traders are all keen to show him their products Jun 19 19:41:05 * Morgan takes some time speaking to them before moving on Jun 19 19:42:12 * MollyK meets him excitedly half way through his journey Jun 19 19:42:27 Liebes herz, you have to try these biscuits! Jun 19 19:42:38 I do? Jun 19 19:43:48 * MollyK hands him a little lebkuchen spiced and iced biscuit in a heart shape. What is very common baking in winter here in Eisen is completely new to the Avalon-raised girl Jun 19 19:44:33 They are rather nice, aren't they Jun 19 19:45:01 * MollyK nods vigorously Jun 19 19:45:23 They are amazing! I have never tasted anything like this! Jun 19 19:45:44 Cold, starry night, blanket, hot chocolate and some of these biscuits... Jun 19 19:47:18 * MollyK nods, smiling Jun 19 19:47:32 If that is an invitation, then yes please! Jun 19 19:47:41 See what we can do Jun 19 19:48:30 After the wedding, perhaps. We have much travelling to do. *she looks at his hand* are you going to eat that? Jun 19 19:48:39 Not if you want it Jun 19 19:51:23 Would you mind? *she smiles* Jun 19 19:51:29 No, my love Jun 19 19:51:35 * Morgan hands it back to her Jun 19 19:52:07 Thank you, you are good to me Jun 19 19:52:13 I try Jun 19 19:52:35 * MollyK breaks it in the middle, making it into a broken heart Jun 19 19:53:59 * Morgan watches her Jun 19 19:54:42 * MollyK doesn't seem to notice, eating one half as she looks around Jun 19 19:54:59 Do we need to find somewhere to talk? Jun 19 19:55:06 Probably wise Jun 19 19:57:01 * MollyK heads towards a small bench away from people Jun 19 19:57:26 What did they say? *she eats the other half* Jun 19 19:58:00 Nothing good. They don't know about the dreams... they can't see them anymore Jun 19 19:58:43 * MollyK sighs Jun 19 19:59:04 They cannot help? Jun 19 19:59:17 No... worse, they cannot see the paths, the future... Jun 19 19:59:33 * MollyK watches him Jun 19 19:59:35 Oh. Jun 19 19:59:53 * Morgan nods Jun 19 20:01:09 That is not good Jun 19 20:01:29 No. It got me wondering if your distrust of them has remained Jun 19 20:03:14 * MollyK thinks Jun 19 20:03:49 I trust they want the convergence, and that they prefer us to be together Jun 19 20:04:20 You do not trust they will not try to force it? Despite their agreeing to be upfront with us? Jun 19 20:07:43 * MollyK sighs Jun 19 20:08:24 I don't know. I think they will not force the timing, but should we have no children by the time my fertility is nearing an end I think they would intervene Jun 19 20:08:46 I see Jun 19 20:10:29 Do you disagree? Jun 19 20:11:14 I think once they understand more the type of people we are, they'd come and talk with us. Jun 19 20:12:49 * MollyK nods Jun 19 20:13:02 That is still an intervention Jun 19 20:13:19 It is no more than our parents would do. Or our friends... Jun 19 20:14:10 * Morgan smiles slightly Jun 19 20:14:14 or us, for others Jun 19 20:14:58 * MollyK nods Jun 19 20:15:26 Perhaps so. But I do not believe they would allow us to choose without applying pressure Jun 19 20:15:46 And how is that any different to our parents? Jun 19 20:16:18 I suppose it is not, though our parents could not force the situation Jun 19 20:16:59 No... but let us be honest here, if we got to that point and had not had children, I don't believe it would be out of choice, do you? Jun 19 20:17:29 A few weeks ago I would have said it was possible, but not now Jun 19 20:17:52 You wish for children? Jun 19 20:18:28 * MollyK nods Jun 19 20:18:33 I always have Jun 19 20:20:28 I think, my love, you are rather borrowing trouble. I would suggest you view the concessions they have made with us in light of how long they have been working towards their goal Jun 19 20:21:49 I am merely being realistic. I trust them to pursue their goal. I know their goal is not our happiness, but something that will be part of our happiness. Jun 19 20:22:12 * Morgan sighs Jun 19 20:22:15 very well Jun 19 20:22:29 You feel I am causing their problem. Jun 19 20:23:48 Our distrust of them was at the same time as their losing the ability to see our dreams, our future... they believed it would get better now that we are willingly working towards the same goal. They know full well that if we chose to not follow that path, they could not make us. Jun 19 20:25:06 But they somewhat are, by the sparkliness Jun 19 20:25:35 That we can ignore... that is, actually, a throwback. It was not aimed at us Jun 19 20:26:39 You are right, of course Jun 19 20:27:46 But it makes no difference Jun 19 20:27:57 It doesn't? Jun 19 20:28:04 It doesn't seem to Jun 19 20:29:28 Why? Jun 19 20:29:47 Because I get the feeling your view has not changed at all Jun 19 20:33:08 * MollyK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jun 19 20:35:46 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 19 20:36:26 [20:23:35] MollyK: I know you speak sense, and I will try harder Jun 19 20:36:38 I think it is important Jun 19 20:36:47 * MollyK nods Jun 19 20:37:07 It is impractical for the to be unable to see our paths Jun 19 20:37:19 * Morgan nods Jun 19 20:38:16 What will we do if they do not regain that ? Jun 19 20:38:34 * Morgan shrugs Jun 19 20:38:49 they can't help protect us if they can't see where we're going or what influences us Jun 19 20:39:19 No... we must protect ourselves Jun 19 20:40:46 We also need to work on letting them back in, so to speak Jun 19 20:41:19 * MollyK nods Jun 19 20:41:23 I will try Jun 19 20:42:00 I understand the way things seem to slow down now Jun 19 20:42:14 Oh? Why? Jun 19 20:42:26 To give us time to take it in, react... Jun 19 20:44:13 They have done it to protect us? Jun 19 20:44:29 * Morgan nods Jun 19 20:45:29 Oh... so in Potts' garden, when the ball grazed my cheek... Jun 19 20:45:55 I daresay it was meant to be rather more... centred. Jun 19 20:46:15 I should imagine that troubles you greatly Jun 19 20:46:40 * Morgan nods Jun 19 20:47:52 * MollyK nods Jun 19 20:48:02 That would have been awful for you Jun 19 20:48:14 * Morgan nods Jun 19 20:51:00 Luckily that was not the case, and we are both here today Jun 19 20:51:18 I rather think luck had little to do with it Jun 19 20:51:31 * MollyK smiles Jun 19 20:51:57 I think you are right, but I do think myself lucky to be your wife Jun 19 20:52:14 * Morgan nods Jun 19 20:52:16 So do I Jun 19 20:52:20 * Morgan grins quickly Jun 19 20:54:18 * MollyK giggles, and kisses his cheek Jun 19 20:54:27 And as always, you are correct Jun 19 20:55:26 * Morgan smiles Jun 19 20:57:21 Perhaps you could view them as the nosey neighbour who wants the same things you do but doesn't really understand social etiquette Jun 19 20:57:35 * MollyK laughs Jun 19 20:58:15 The nosey neighbour who looks into your bedroom to ensure you are performing your marital duties frequently enough Jun 19 20:59:26 Something like that, aye Jun 19 21:00:16 * MollyK smiles Jun 19 21:01:35 I suppose their interference to ensure my Father's conception has no helped. All that pain Leopold, Sophie, George, and Margaret went through... it is harder to see them as benign when they have caused or permitted great pain to get you and I here Jun 19 21:02:20 * Morgan nods Jun 19 21:05:04 I can understand that, yes... I think that is something they did not understand. I think they are starting to, especially having given their oath not to manipulate us. I told them about the damage my getting stuck in dreams could do to our bond... that bond is not required for the convergence, but they are still looking for a solution to it, to prevent that damage Jun 19 21:06:15 * MollyK frowns a little Jun 19 21:06:30 You think it could change your feelings for me so much? Jun 19 21:06:46 God no... but I saw the hurt I caused you Jun 19 21:08:02 * MollyK nods slightly Jun 19 21:08:19 And yet I would never leave. I love you too much. Jun 19 21:09:01 Even so Jun 19 21:09:47 For whatever reason, the convergence seems to be important. I am committed to it, no matter the pain. Jun 19 21:11:07 For whatever reason? You do not know what the goal is? Jun 19 21:12:04 To unite our bloodlines in a child or children. But I do not understand _why_ that is necessary Jun 19 21:12:36 Peace. And the happiness and wellbeing of the people of Eisen, all of them Jun 19 21:13:07 But how does our having children do that? Why them, why us? Jun 19 21:13:55 Lets ask. Jun 19 21:14:15 * MollyK nods Jun 19 21:14:50 Regardless, I have no intention of leaving if these stuck dreams continue. Jun 19 21:15:15 * Morgan nods, thinking about the Niegblungen again Jun 19 21:15:17 I am glad Jun 19 21:16:01 You saw Seb and I together, dancing together, even. If you can bear my possible futures with him, I can bear this, Jun 19 21:16:20 * Morgan nods solemnly Jun 19 21:17:09 Besides, we know now that you need to be made to sleep. I do not need to be so scared Jun 19 21:17:17 * Morgan nods Jun 19 21:18:03 I can understand why you would get stuck there, a happier past Jun 19 21:18:15 * Morgan shakes his head Jun 19 21:18:20 I am happy now Jun 19 21:18:43 No... a past that was happier than the past ended up being. Jun 19 21:18:58 I see Jun 19 21:19:27 I know you are happy now, aside from the various danger and drama that befalls us Jun 19 21:19:33 * MollyK smiles Jun 19 21:20:01 Some of which is mildly entertaining Jun 19 21:20:43 Like Heinzharold's Ma saying she had seen his twig, berries, and little bum hole many times? Jun 19 21:21:01 quite. Jun 19 21:21:29 The drama with Edward and Mina is hopefully about to come to an end Jun 19 21:22:03 I really hope so Jun 19 21:22:27 They deserve peace and happiness now Jun 19 21:22:52 * Morgan nods Jun 19 21:23:04 Its been a difficult journey for them Jun 19 21:23:11 * MollyK nods Jun 19 21:23:27 And yet their love has remained Jun 19 21:23:39 * Morgan sighs Jun 19 21:23:39 just Jun 19 21:24:20 One can love someone even when there is hurt there Jun 19 21:26:05 * Morgan nods Jun 19 21:30:05 * MollyK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jun 19 21:39:20 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 19 21:39:45 I think they will be okay Jun 19 21:40:52 * Morgan nods Jun 19 21:40:54 I hope so Jun 19 21:41:46 And we will too, my love Jun 19 21:42:24 * Morgan nods Jun 19 21:43:05 Have you spoken to Heinzharold about your feelings on their plans to only make one trip before they settle? Jun 19 21:43:23 No... since they're being cagey about it Jun 19 21:44:21 Would you like me to do anything? Jun 19 21:44:51 * Morgan shakes his head Jun 19 21:45:07 no... I'll either talk to him or wait until he tells me Jun 19 21:48:04 * MollyK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jun 19 22:04:57 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 19 22:05:03 [21:41:42] MollyK: As you wish. I can understand them keeping such a thing to themselves. I have not told Inga about your desire to have children very soon Jun 19 22:05:52 no? Jun 19 22:08:09 I thought you would wish to keep it just between the two of us Jun 19 22:09:37 * Morgan smiles slightly Jun 19 22:09:43 I told Edward... and my father. Jun 19 22:09:56 Me looks surprised Jun 19 22:10:02 Oh! Jun 19 22:12:31 that surprises you Jun 19 22:13:22 I was not expecting you to confide in them. For so long it seemed your estrangement from them would be permanent, or remain at least partially Jun 19 22:14:31 it... fluctuates Jun 19 22:17:41 * MollyK nods Jun 19 22:17:56 But this is a big thing, isn't it? Jun 19 22:18:04 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:18:49 Were they able to help you? Jun 19 22:19:53 Edward suggested I talk to Faulk. My father suggested you could stay with he and mother while I was off in Capperlucia... he was very keen to be sure I knew you would be safe there Jun 19 22:20:12 That is sweet of him Jun 19 22:21:06 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:22:15 I think he felt my insistence that it was not possible was my casting doubt on that Jun 19 22:23:09 You are not the ambassador... Jun 19 22:23:41 No... He got it in the end I think, when I spelled it out Jun 19 22:24:24 * MollyK nods Jun 19 22:24:54 Hmm... how much more practical it would be if you could carry and deliver our next child... Jun 19 22:24:58 * MollyK smirks Jun 19 22:25:12 * Morgan shrugs Jun 19 22:25:17 I'd complain too much Jun 19 22:28:35 * MollyK smiles Jun 19 22:29:02 You assume I will be utterly uncomplaining and perfectly serene and calm throughout? Jun 19 22:29:12 Not at all Jun 19 22:29:40 * MollyK smiles Jun 19 22:30:30 We shall see, won't we? Perhaps by number eight I will be utterly fed up of waddling around for months on end Jun 19 22:30:42 Probably Jun 19 22:30:59 * Morgan frowns briefly Jun 19 22:31:13 What, my love? Jun 19 22:31:33 Just... something I wasn't ready to know, thats all Jun 19 22:31:45 * MollyK takes his hand Jun 19 22:32:00 From the Nibelungen? Jun 19 22:32:04 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:32:24 * MollyK frowns too Jun 19 22:32:51 What is it, liebling? Will the stone fail and I will be lost in childbed? Jun 19 22:33:46 No, blossom, no... The fate witch said something, the Nieblungen just... clarified what she meant Jun 19 22:33:58 * MollyK watches him, waiting Jun 19 22:34:12 The child Dietlinde was carrying... was to be my son Jun 19 22:34:28 * MollyK nods Jun 19 22:34:44 I am sorry, my love Jun 19 22:34:50 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:36:04 There have been dreams, but I thought perhaps they were very alternate paths... Jun 19 22:36:33 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:37:08 What can I do for you right now, my love. Jun 19 22:38:36 * Morgan sighs Jun 19 22:38:48 Just be here Jun 19 22:39:00 * MollyK holds his hand firmer Jun 19 22:39:07 I am always here Jun 19 22:39:13 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:41:00 * MollyK looks off in the direction of the market Jun 19 22:41:06 Why did they tell you? Jun 19 22:42:11 Just that. The fate witch... I misunderstood her, that we were to adopt another but... I was wrong Jun 19 22:43:26 * MollyK nods Jun 19 22:44:00 You had thought that perhaps I was with child too Jun 19 22:45:13 * Morgan shrugs Jun 19 22:45:14 a little Jun 19 22:45:23 * MollyK nods Jun 19 22:45:29 Would you want that. Jun 19 22:45:31 . Jun 19 22:45:34 ? Jun 19 22:45:45 You with child? Jun 19 22:46:11 I meant to adopt again... but also you could answer for that too Jun 19 22:46:26 I rather think we'll have our hands full already Jun 19 22:47:07 * MollyK nods a little Jun 19 22:47:40 Though it would make the issue of my travelling whilst increasing a moot point Jun 19 22:48:11 oh? Jun 19 22:48:51 If we adopted, there would be a baby without pregnancy Jun 19 22:49:10 true Jun 19 22:49:38 * MollyK sighs Jun 19 22:49:59 But I would still have to leave the baby here to travel Jun 19 22:50:08 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:50:42 And so we would end up an ocean apart Jun 19 22:51:04 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:51:07 unacceptable Jun 19 22:51:35 * MollyK nods Jun 19 22:51:45 You only answered one of the questions Jun 19 22:52:02 I think I've already answered the latter before Jun 19 22:52:32 I meant now, today. Do you wish my course had not come last night? Jun 19 22:52:49 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:53:02 but I also know that it is probably best that it is the way it is Jun 19 22:53:23 * MollyK nods sadly Jun 19 22:53:30 It probably is Jun 19 22:55:20 I might not have been quite so upset this morning if it wasn't for that, it does make me... *she frowns* Jun 19 22:56:47 More susceptible to emotional stimulus? Jun 19 22:57:03 * MollyK just says mmm distractedly Jun 19 22:58:04 What? Jun 19 22:58:26 I was very upset last time you got stuck... Jun 19 22:59:07 * Morgan nods Jun 19 22:59:51 It was the day of my course. Jun 19 23:00:38 * Morgan concentrates, trying to get a date for the first time Jun 19 23:01:19 *it was exactly four weeks before that Jun 19 23:01:57 Four weeks exactly before that Jun 19 23:02:38 * MollyK gives him the date Jun 19 23:02:52 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:02:56 yes. Then. Jun 19 23:03:07 Huh. Jun 19 23:04:07 * MollyK shakes her head "it makes no sense" Jun 19 23:04:20 No... I suppose it will, at some point Jun 19 23:05:05 It could just be a coincidence? Jun 19 23:05:19 * Morgan raises an eyebrow Jun 19 23:05:30 No. Not at all, I am certain of it. Jun 19 23:05:43 Why? Jun 19 23:06:12 Its too much to be a coincidence Jun 19 23:06:30 * MollyK sighs Jun 19 23:06:42 Is it good that we know this? Jun 19 23:07:02 I don't see that it isn't... we can work around it Jun 19 23:07:16 * MollyK nods Jun 19 23:07:46 The time before that was the day after Evie's wedding and the anniversary. You dreamt of the fire. Jun 19 23:08:08 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:10:38 Before that, in August, was the cast. You hadn't mentioned any dreams then, but the cast came four days before my course was due. In July, we were on the ferry to Freiburg, your strange dreams had not started then. In June, it was before the wedding, and before the summer house, no dreams. Jun 19 23:11:00 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:11:36 * MollyK is quiet a minute as she processes this Jun 19 23:12:03 I do not understand it, but I hope it means we can still share a bed as normal now. Jun 19 23:12:28 I suspect so Jun 19 23:12:57 And I will not have to be so careful about rousing you Jun 19 23:13:35 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:14:12 * MollyK gives him a little smile Jun 19 23:14:21 That is something good, at least Jun 19 23:14:28 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:14:33 aye, it is Jun 19 23:14:53 I should have put it together sooner Jun 19 23:15:05 * Morgan shrugs Jun 19 23:15:12 nevermind Jun 19 23:15:33 * MollyK nods Jun 19 23:16:06 We should get back to our shopping. Our travelling days are going to need to be very long to get us to Graben in time Jun 19 23:18:04 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:18:06 alright blossom Jun 19 23:18:54 Do you need a little time here to collect your thoughts, my love? I can go and keep the others from mischief Jun 19 23:19:23 Just a moment, I think Jun 19 23:20:28 * MollyK kisses his cheek Jun 19 23:20:47 I love you. Be kind to yourself, please. Jun 19 23:21:15 * Morgan nods Jun 19 23:21:16 I will Jun 19 23:22:40 * MollyK nods, leaving him sat alone on the bench. He sees all three boys make a beeline for her when she gets there, and she gives them all attention and affection as she lets them lead her into the market bustle Jun 19 23:26:50 * MollyK has quit (Read error: EOF from client)