**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 18 18:48:14 2022 Jun 18 18:48:14 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 18 18:48:52 * MollyK has quit (Quit: Igloo IRC: https://iglooirc.com) Jun 18 18:48:56 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 18 18:55:45 * MollyK has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Jun 18 19:42:24 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 18 19:42:39 * MollyK is now known as HH Jun 18 19:45:14 potentially, aye Jun 18 19:46:39 Got a strategy? Jun 18 19:47:05 * Morgan shakes his head Jun 18 19:47:18 Best I can think of is consult someone, see if they can get rid of them Jun 18 19:48:31 * HH nods Jun 18 19:49:01 * Morgan starts thinking about needing to speak to the Nieblungen Jun 18 19:49:57 Theus alone knows when I'll get to see them next Jun 18 19:50:17 Who? Jun 18 19:50:30 * Morgan glances at the boys briefly Jun 18 19:50:33 Nieblungen Jun 18 19:52:58 * HH nods Jun 18 19:53:53 Could make a hop across th' river in Seeufer and go to the Fischler mine. Gonna cost a day though Jun 18 19:54:40 I don't think we have the time Jun 18 19:56:23 We could go tomorrow, have the rest catch us up. Molly and Inga are going to want to wait for yer Da and Ma Jun 18 19:56:38 Maybe... Jun 18 19:57:07 D'pends how urgent it is Jun 18 19:57:40 I've a feeling they'll have no idea anyway Jun 18 19:59:05 Mebbie see them at th' end of the month on the way back? Jun 18 19:59:47 * Morgan sighs, shrugging Jun 18 20:00:58 * HH watches him Jun 18 20:01:20 I'll come with ya, man, if ya wanna go tomorrow Jun 18 20:02:34 I'll think about it Jun 18 20:04:04 * HH nods Jun 18 20:04:23 *the boys are arguing over the last bit of cake* Jun 18 20:04:42 Go eat the cake, would you? Stop them arguing Jun 18 20:05:50 * HH grins Jun 18 20:06:11 I'll do it for th' greater good Jun 18 20:06:32 I'm sure you will Jun 18 20:09:39 * HH jogs over before getting on the ground and pretending to be a pig, snuffling at the boys whilst they all laugh and shout at him before sticking his whole face in the cake and chomping at it Jun 18 20:11:07 * Morgan watches him before shaking his head despairingly Jun 18 20:11:57 *the boys start imitating him, crawling around and no doubt getting filthy Jun 18 20:12:27 * Morgan closes his eyes for a moment, shaking his head Jun 18 20:14:42 *Inga comes out, surveying the scene* Heinzharold! Jun 18 20:15:03 * HH looks up quickly, as do the children Jun 18 20:15:44 My fault, Inga Jun 18 20:16:26 *Inga looks at Morgan* Would you ensure they're all presentable so we can go soon? Jun 18 20:17:33 Of course Lady Lehenstrue Jun 18 20:18:08 *Inga thanks him before going back indoors* Jun 18 20:18:24 * HH gets up, brushing himself off Jun 18 20:18:24 * Morgan looks at them Jun 18 20:18:31 Come on, get yourselves cleaned up Jun 18 20:19:21 *the boys also get up. They will need some help* Jun 18 20:20:05 * Morgan goes to them, helping them get cleaned off Jun 18 20:20:08 * HH looks at Morgan with a grin "You got this, so I can go grovel for forgiveness?" Jun 18 20:20:18 Go on Jun 18 20:20:42 * HH goes off towards the house whistling cheerfully Jun 18 20:20:50 * HH is now known as Varick Jun 18 20:21:07 Why is Heinzharold happy when he is going to get told off? Jun 18 20:21:36 I think because she's not really angry and its a chance for them to be nice to eachother Jun 18 20:23:54 R: when Heinrich annoys my Mama, he just kisses her and she cheers up Jun 18 20:24:29 * Morgan nods Jun 18 20:24:47 Its one of those things I know works, but I couldn't tell you why Jun 18 20:25:26 I am never kissing a girl! *the other boys agree* Jun 18 20:25:45 we'll see Jun 18 20:27:44 J: *he looks more serious* I think my father wants to kiss Theresa Jun 18 20:29:06 oh really? Jun 18 20:29:25 J: sometimes they look at each other for a long time Jun 18 20:29:52 Nothing on their faces? Jun 18 20:31:15 J: no, they both look clean Jun 18 20:32:14 Sounds like they might want to then Jun 18 20:33:17 J: *he nods* Jun 18 20:34:11 * Varick looks at Jacques "It's okay, people don't kiss in front of children except at weddings" Jun 18 20:34:38 I wouldn't count on that exactly Jun 18 20:34:47 R: That's not true, my Mama and Heinrich are always kissing Jun 18 20:35:58 Well my Mama and Papa don't! Jun 18 20:36:24 Lately thats because I've been away so much Jun 18 20:37:19 R: Maybe it's 'cos they're nobles *there seems to be a growing tension between the two boys. Jacques just watches them* Jun 18 20:39:52 Alright boys, thats enough... Something you both need to remember is that everyone is different, and the important thing is that they are happy Jun 18 20:40:08 *Molly comes out into the garden, watching them all from a distance* Jun 18 20:40:34 *Rickon and Jacques both say Yes, My Lord, But Varick says Yes, Papa* Jun 18 20:43:34 I don't want you falling out just because your parents do things differently Jun 18 20:45:49 *they all nod. Molly comes over, looking at them all and taking in the serious faces. She smiles* who wants to go to market? Jun 18 20:47:16 * Varick and the others perk up at this, and she sends them into the house before looking at Morgan Jun 18 20:47:21 * Varick is now known as Molly Jun 18 20:48:12 They are alright, my love, I'll wipe their hands and faces, and comb their hair, they will be fine for the market Jun 18 20:48:46 They were definitely squaring up for a falling out Jun 18 20:49:31 * Molly frowns, walking slowly towards the house beside him Jun 18 20:49:42 Because they got dirty? Jun 18 20:51:49 No... They were talking about HeinzHarold looking happy to be in trouble, jacques said he thinks his father wants to kiss Theresa, then it got a bit heated about how we don't kiss in front of Varick, so no grownups do it, then Rickon disagreed because Heinrich and Hildebrand do it all the time in front of him... Jun 18 20:52:11 * Molly nods slowly Jun 18 20:52:31 I see... Jun 18 20:53:21 HeinzHarold suggested crossing the river to speak with the Nieblungen, but it'd cost us a day Jun 18 20:53:32 * Molly nods Jun 18 20:54:07 We might manage it Jun 18 20:54:21 * Molly looks thoughtful Jun 18 20:56:43 If we set off early from Koln, ahead of the others, we could get the last ferry to Fischler, stay there the night, get the ferry back to Seeufer and catch up the carriage on the way to Kreutzung Jun 18 20:57:23 * Morgan smiles slightly Jun 18 20:57:39 HeinzHarold suggested sending you with Inga, and he and I go to Fischler Jun 18 20:58:00 * Molly frowns Jun 18 20:58:42 *she shrugs, smiling playfully* If you would prefer to share a bed with him, my love, I will let you do so Jun 18 21:00:00 He's worried... _we_ are worried that these instances of getting stuck are someone trying to drive a wedge between you and I Jun 18 21:00:16 * Molly nods Jun 18 21:00:23 or perhaps to lock me into it entirely... or to lose my mind Jun 18 21:00:36 I can appreciate that worry Jun 18 21:00:54 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:02:04 The first, we can only work not to let that happen... it was very lucky it was so cold this morning, I was planning to wake you as I had on your birthday, and that would have been disastrous Jun 18 21:03:07 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:03:11 Yes, it would've Jun 18 21:03:46 I do not think that is something we can ever risk again Jun 18 21:03:58 * Morgan sighs Jun 18 21:04:01 I suppose not Jun 18 21:04:55 Either you would realise, and be angry and distraught and I would be hurt, or you wouldn't, and I would be very hurt. Better than I abstain from it. Jun 18 21:05:50 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:05:52 I do not like it Jun 18 21:06:05 * Molly frowns a little Jun 18 21:06:17 Oh. You seemed to last time... Jun 18 21:06:33 I do not like that we must curtail things we enjoy Jun 18 21:06:41 * Molly nods Jun 18 21:07:23 Sadly, I think we must. I wonder if I ought to wear nightwear too. Jun 18 21:08:05 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:09:13 * Molly sighs Jun 18 21:09:35 If it becomes more frequent, we may need to also consider further measures Jun 18 21:10:14 If it is someone meddling, if I ever get my hands on them, they're going to regret it Jun 18 21:10:34 * Molly nods Jun 18 21:10:52 You can tolerate much, but me getting hurt is not one of those things Jun 18 21:10:58 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:12:39 *they get near the house* we can do whatever you prefer about the Nibelungen, my love Jun 18 21:13:19 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:16:42 * Molly has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Jun 18 21:19:59 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Jun 18 21:20:06 [21:07:35] • ​Molly​ takes a deep breath Jun 18 21:20:13 [21:07:39] Molly: Shall we? Jun 18 21:20:17 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:20:18 aye Jun 18 21:23:16 * MollyK goes in. She takes time with each boy, cleaning and combing, tying boots, brushing off clothing. This seems to make her cheerful, and Jacques especially seems to enjoy the motherly attentions. The seven of them walk to the town square, everyone they pass greeting them. HH seems to know everyone by name, playing up his nice-but-dim act Jun 18 21:23:54 [He's very good here] Jun 18 21:24:44 [he is. It reminds me of the day I first met him] Jun 18 21:24:56 [The day I pushed him over?] Jun 18 21:25:37 [indeed. I was surprised by your incivility, mon petit chou] Jun 18 21:26:00 [We'd long established I am an unpleasant person] Jun 18 21:27:04 [I know. I was merely surprised you weren't worse!] *she checks no one is looking before sticking her tongue out at him then smiles* Jun 18 21:27:15 * Morgan smiles, taking her hand Jun 18 21:27:34 * MollyK holds on to it. Her hand is cold Jun 18 21:27:46 You're freezing blossom Jun 18 21:27:54 I'm sorry, I left my gloves at the manor house Jun 18 21:29:55 *the children are all back on good terms, keeping pace with Inga and HH up ahead. HH is making them laugh* Jun 18 21:30:10 Want me to find you a warm rock? Jun 18 21:30:26 * MollyK smiles warmly Jun 18 21:30:35 I am warming up already Jun 18 21:30:42 If you're sure... Jun 18 21:30:49 * MollyK nods Jun 18 21:31:07 I am fine, my love. Goodness knows I've been colder Jun 18 21:31:20 I know... but still... Jun 18 21:31:45 * MollyK watches him sidelong, considering him Jun 18 21:32:19 It will make you feel better after this morning to be able to do something practical that improves my happiness? Jun 18 21:32:56 Maybe... I am happy to just hold onto your hand if that is warming it up Jun 18 21:33:08 * MollyK nods Jun 18 21:33:26 It is, but I would let you give me your rock... Jun 18 21:34:22 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:34:58 * MollyK glances at him with a little smile, then watches the others Jun 18 21:35:11 They seem to be having a wonderful time Jun 18 21:35:18 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:35:21 They do indeed Jun 18 21:35:37 Theresa and Walder, hmm? Jun 18 21:35:45 Apparently so Jun 18 21:35:52 Unexpected Jun 18 21:35:59 * Morgan shrugs Jun 18 21:36:00 maybe Jun 18 21:36:46 It's not impossible for two people who work together to not harbour clandestine affections for each other... *she smirks* Jun 18 21:37:46 quite Jun 18 21:37:49 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:38:55 They are of a similar age, both having lost a love... Jun 18 21:39:06 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:39:26 I do not see we should forbid it Jun 18 21:39:48 I think it would be hypocritical of me if I did... providing their work does not suffer Jun 18 21:39:56 * MollyK nods Jun 18 21:40:33 With Walder, that seems impossible. If we could have a thousand Walders to staff all our ventures I would be a very happy woman Jun 18 21:40:46 * Morgan raises an eyebrow Jun 18 21:40:50 oh? Jun 18 21:40:58 Oh what? Jun 18 21:41:16 Just the thought of Walder making you happy woman.... Jun 18 21:41:44 * MollyK laughs Jun 18 21:42:02 There is one vessel upon which he would never be able to sail Jun 18 21:42:15 quite so Jun 18 21:43:04 That vessel already has a very competent deck hand Jun 18 21:43:14 * MollyK smiles innocently Jun 18 21:44:05 deck hand... I see.... Jun 18 21:44:26 Mmhmm... *she glances at his expression* Jun 18 21:44:53 * Morgan smirks slightly Jun 18 21:45:05 Tis the deck hand that rubs her down and sees to the wood Jun 18 21:45:40 You're a terror, you know that? Jun 18 21:45:45 * MollyK looks amused Jun 18 21:46:00 Incorrigible, I think you said Jun 18 21:46:38 * Morgan nods Jun 18 21:46:40 yes indeed Jun 18 21:47:07 * MollyK smiles, squeezing his hand Jun 18 21:49:39 You could be the master gunner... responsible for keeping the powder dry 7ntil Jun 18 21:49:52 Until it is time to fire the cannon Jun 18 21:50:05 sounds about right Jun 18 21:51:09 * MollyK smiles to herself, watching the track as they walk Jun 18 21:51:25 * Morgan looks around as they walk Jun 18 21:51:42 *everything looks fine* Jun 18 21:55:37 *after another five minutes, he gets the feeling of being watched* Jun 18 21:56:30 * Morgan looks around again Jun 18 21:56:53 *he sees a slight movement in the treeline* Jun 18 21:57:07 * Morgan looks straight at it Jun 18 21:57:32 *concealed quite well is a Nibelungen Jun 18 21:57:47 * Morgan speaks quietly Jun 18 21:58:01 blossom, I've just seen someone I need to speak to... could you keep the others occupied? Jun 18 21:58:13 * MollyK nods Jun 18 21:58:25 * Morgan glances round before darting off into the trees Jun 18 21:59:12 Of course, my love. We'll meet you at th- *she watches him go, then smiles to herself with a shrug, and goes to catch the others up* Jun 18 21:59:51 * MollyK is now known as Nibelungen Jun 18 22:00:34 * Morgan approaches, inclining his head Jun 18 22:00:59 You need to speak to us Jun 18 22:01:10 * Morgan nods Jun 18 22:02:20 I need your help. We have two issues... one, on a couple of occasions that could've cost either of us our lives, time seems to slow down... I tripped over something... I never trip. Is that the effect of those working against us? Jun 18 22:02:41 No, it is not Jun 18 22:02:50 what is it? Why does it happen? Jun 18 22:03:29 * Nibelungen pauses before saying Jun 18 22:03:50 It helps you to stay safe Jun 18 22:04:09 Gives us more chance to react? Jun 18 22:04:17 Yes Jun 18 22:04:21 * Morgan nods Jun 18 22:04:48 alright, thats the matter of curiosity out of the way... You know of the dreams I keep getting locked in, believing Dietlinde and Jana survived? Jun 18 22:05:15 No. We are no longer able to access any dreams. Jun 18 22:05:36 Damn... I thought that would get better now we are working more closely together Jun 18 22:06:00 No. It has become worse. Jun 18 22:06:08 * Morgan frowns Jun 18 22:06:11 why? Jun 18 22:06:19 We do not know Jun 18 22:07:51 Thats not encouraging. We are working towards a common goal in good faith... if our reluctance was the cause, it should've fixed it... Jun 18 22:08:16 Yes. It should. It has not. Jun 18 22:08:36 An outside influence? Those that oppose our goal? Jun 18 22:08:49 It is possible Jun 18 22:09:50 Three times now I have dreamed Dietlinde and Jana survived... that I am still married to her... I wake up still believing that. I wanted your help to stop them. Jun 18 22:10:50 We cannot stop them. You will most commonly learn to deal with it together. Jun 18 22:12:12 The nightmares I can deal with but these... I am concerned they will damage our bond irreparably, possibly to the point of stopping the convergence. Could they be a tactic of those that oppose us? Jun 18 22:12:40 They could be. We do not know. Jun 18 22:13:06 * Morgan rubs his forehead Jun 18 22:14:09 We are also frustrated. We did not anticipate that we would have so little control once the two of you were together Jun 18 22:14:29 Control? Of us? Jun 18 22:14:41 Of the situations Jun 18 22:14:45 * Morgan nods Jun 18 22:15:23 We are less able to see the paths ahead Jun 18 22:15:54 Do you think that that might be influenced by Molly's moving across paths? Jun 18 22:16:20 Very likely. She is like a kite in changeable winds. Jun 18 22:17:18 More likely that than someone opposing? Jun 18 22:18:21 More likely but not a certainty Jun 18 22:18:43 Perhaps she still does not feel she can entirely trust you or your motives... Jun 18 22:20:21 Perhaps Jun 18 22:22:12 * Morgan sighs Jun 18 22:22:33 This conversation has not gone nearly so well as I'd hoped Jun 18 22:23:18 It is a disappointment Jun 18 22:24:59 What can we do? We need to fix it. Jun 18 22:25:52 Learn to live with it Jun 18 22:28:01 I _meant_ that you cannot see the paths... and I do not wish to live with it when it encroaches on our life, when it damages us Jun 18 22:28:59 We do not know yet how to restore the vision of the paths. We are working on it. We believe that the convergence will still occur Jun 18 22:31:47 convergence being... we have children... Jun 18 22:32:32 Yes Jun 18 22:32:38 * Morgan smiles slightly Jun 18 22:32:57 providing these dreams do not damage our bond, that is definitely on the cards Jun 18 22:33:35 Your bond is not necessary to the convergence Jun 18 22:33:56 Not to you, perhaps, but to us. No bond, no convergence. Jun 18 22:34:34 The "draw", as you call it, will still be in effect Jun 18 22:36:04 The one we can ignore... *he sniffs loudly* its not a great idea to make us think you'd force the situation... Jun 18 22:36:38 We trust that you and Molly understand that the convergence is essential. Jun 18 22:37:24 Then you need to understand that the bond is entirely essential to us. Jun 18 22:38:20 We believe you would choose the convergence without it Jun 18 22:39:26 Thats not what we want. We are asking you to help us. Jun 18 22:40:18 We are unable to help at this time. You and Molly must learn to deal with these dreams Jun 18 22:41:10 * Morgan watches him seriously Jun 18 22:41:25 You would help if you could? Jun 18 22:42:47 Yes. The smoothest routes are preferable. The more times the lines converge, the better. Jun 18 22:43:54 If our bond becomes too damaged, our desire to have children would quite possibly disappear... you don't want that, we don't want that. If you can come up with any solution that might help, it benefits us both. Jun 18 22:44:09 A solution will be looked for. Jun 18 22:45:15 * Morgan nods, sighing Jun 18 22:47:25 You must make your bond strong to prevent damage Jun 18 22:49:52 the nightmares, as unpleasant as they are, some seem to help me understand things... some are just nightmares... I will deal with those, they are of use. I want your help getting rid of the ones I get stuck in. If there is anyone who could be causing them, I want to stop them doing so. Jun 18 22:50:22 We will see what can be done Jun 18 22:50:39 * Morgan nods Jun 18 22:52:00 Even if I have to deal with them myself, understanding will help. In the past, you mentioned that we had one adopted child and one we had not met yet. Have we met them? Jun 18 22:52:58 The fate witch said that. The child you have not met is your son Dietlinde was expecting. Jun 18 22:53:50 Ah... yes, her. I wonder... if one of those could help... Jun 18 22:54:22 Most fate witches are weak and inaccurate Jun 18 22:54:42 most... I imagine you would know where we could find one that is not... Jun 18 22:56:14 You have encountered one. The older fate witch in Picante. Jun 18 22:56:33 Yes, but I can't see her again... I need one thats still alive Jun 18 22:57:11 I see... alright. Jun 18 22:58:02 Is there more you want to ask? Jun 18 22:58:23 No. Keep me informed, yes? Jun 18 22:58:57 Yes Jun 18 22:59:07 Thank you for coming Jun 18 22:59:53 You are welcome. Jun 18 23:00:36 * Morgan inclines his head before moving away, to catch up with Molly Jun 18 23:04:18 * Nibelungen has quit (Read error: EOF from client)