**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 18 20:14:08 2022 May 18 20:14:08 * MollyK (~igloo@192.168.1.127) has joined May 18 20:15:32 * MollyK spends quite a lot of the journey with Edward, and this frees up Morgan to ride quietly. After lunch he is riding with Adalbrecht, Molly and Edward in front May 18 20:15:38 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht May 18 20:15:58 You are doing a good job with Innesbruck. May 18 20:16:04 * Morgan (~mads@news-iMac.lan) has joined May 18 20:16:17 [20:06:19] • ​MollyK​ spends quite a lot of the journey with Edward, and this frees up Morgan to ride quietly. After lunch he is riding with Adalbrecht, Molly and Edward in front May 18 20:16:23 [20:06:46] Adalbrecht: You are doing a good job with Innesbruck. May 18 20:16:52 Thank you. May 18 20:17:28 Gottkirchen will be a bigger challenge May 18 20:18:26 I've no doubt. I'm planning to put HeinzHarold to work getting the lay of the land before we take over so I know what to focus on first May 18 20:19:28 That is wise May 18 20:19:49 I'm glad you think so May 18 20:20:48 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 20:21:20 You have impressed me so far. Your ledgers are very tidy and well-organised May 18 20:21:44 Thats just a payoff of having a decent overseer, if we're honest May 18 20:22:13 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 20:24:59 Molly mentioned to me in August that she had wanted to take over your stewardship of Koln and keep running Innesbruck by herself *Morgan had said no to it, and made his will that Edward does both until Varick is old enough* May 18 20:25:40 did she May 18 20:26:55 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 20:27:17 What did you decide? May 18 20:29:59 I said no. At the time I did not feel she would be taken seriously by the Graf May 18 20:30:22 * Adalbrecht nods a little May 18 20:31:08 I cannot stop her continuing on as Grafin Gottkirchen in that circumstance. Only the Eisenfurst could. May 18 20:31:42 I don't see that happening. He has a good deal of faith in her May 18 20:32:00 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 20:32:21 It falls to you to make sure of your wishes May 18 20:34:12 Once things with Mina have been decided, I'll look at my will again... Obviously, Koln would need a steward until Varick is of age, and Innesbruck... *he sighs* if she accepts him still, I'll need to find someone else. Molly would be needed in Gottkirchen May 18 20:35:44 You would let her continue to rule? May 18 20:36:23 She'd be damn good at it. May 18 20:37:20 She is a woman May 18 20:38:37 I had noticed. You think the Eisenfurstin is not up to the job because she's a woman? May 18 20:39:00 Well, no... May 18 20:39:58 and I'm sure you would not be suggesting that she should give up her position in favour of a man taking her place... May 18 20:42:01 * Adalbrecht looks less sure of this May 18 20:42:22 Have you had any dealings with her? May 18 20:42:41 Barely any. I danced with her once a long time ago May 18 20:44:04 She is shrewd, as sharp as a tack, and I suspect overlooked and dismissed as a strategist because she's a woman... which is a mistake May 18 20:44:53 She is at least old enough to be past child rearing age May 18 20:45:28 That is your objection? May 18 20:46:08 Young women should be having children and raising them, not running lands May 18 20:46:35 I see May 18 20:47:49 Molly should be doing that instead May 18 20:48:07 Feel free to... actually, no, don't. May 18 20:48:09 * Morgan frowns May 18 20:48:31 Don't what? May 18 20:48:52 I was going to say feel free to tell her that... but don't May 18 20:49:38 Why? May 18 20:50:02 * Morgan sighs May 18 20:50:29 because despite our wants, we have a duty to perform and an agreement to adhere to May 18 20:52:14 There is never a good time. May 18 20:53:11 Time can be made once we are settled in one place... but it is not feasible while we're about to go sailing for so long May 18 20:53:52 Did you not think of that before committing to travelling? May 18 20:54:05 * Morgan scowls, glaring briefly at his father May 18 20:54:20 * Adalbrecht looks unfazed May 18 20:54:35 I did not expect to be ready to think about having more children for some time May 18 20:56:04 But that has changed? May 18 20:56:26 * Morgan nods slightly May 18 20:57:35 Your mothers will be pleased by that May 18 20:58:44 I'd rather they not know... we don't need the extra pressure when we cannot do what we wish just yet May 18 20:59:15 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 20:59:25 I will keep it to myself May 18 20:59:30 thank you May 18 20:59:50 You have considered all the options? May 18 21:00:28 At best... there is provision for a break from duties if she falls pregnant... but we need to get things established first May 18 21:01:11 Have you appointed someone to start that in your absence? May 18 21:01:34 No. I can't. Its not my role May 18 21:01:48 What do you mean? May 18 21:02:29 Molly is the ambassador... I suspect she will want to see it through anyway May 18 21:03:33 And what do _you_ want? She is your wife May 18 21:04:08 We made an agreement with the Eisenfurst. We have to see it through May 18 21:04:31 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 21:04:41 You are getting old though May 18 21:05:22 I am acutely aware of my age May 18 21:06:12 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 21:06:32 Thirty is old to be starting a family May 18 21:07:38 * Morgan nods May 18 21:08:34 Wise to have taken so young a wife May 18 21:08:50 * Morgan shrugs May 18 21:08:53 a coincidence May 18 21:10:25 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 21:11:05 It must be tough to wait now that you are wanting to have another May 18 21:11:16 * Morgan slumps slightly in the saddle May 18 21:11:29 It is. Very. May 18 21:12:03 What has changed? When last we spoke you were so keen to avoid it May 18 21:12:45 Having to deal with Florrie... its... allowed me to remember how much I like children May 18 21:14:14 Because she looks like Jana? May 18 21:15:03 Understandable that you'd think that but I don't think so. I think if I'd allowed myself to deal with one of Molly's nieces, I'd have come to the conclusion sooner... and of course having to deal with Thomas... May 18 21:15:59 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 21:16:16 There is something about newborn babies May 18 21:16:40 * Morgan nods May 18 21:17:08 I more or less avoided him, but even so May 18 21:18:27 Seeing Molly with the newborns was a struggle for you? Between your and Edward's eventual arrival I found that tough May 18 21:19:04 It wasn't unpleasant... I was uneasy about it though May 18 21:24:10 * Adalbrecht has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) May 18 21:45:51 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined May 18 21:45:58 [21:34:47] Adalbrecht: It does make them broody I have found May 18 21:46:40 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht May 18 21:46:48 * Morgan nods May 18 21:46:51 not just them, is it May 18 21:49:33 Meaning? May 18 21:50:36 That get broody May 18 21:52:21 Did not have time for that before you came along. After that, I suppose I got it a little. It was more the disappointment and sadness of your Mother that troubled me May 18 21:52:38 how do you mean? May 18 21:57:30 More than my own sadness, it was your Mother's sadness that affected me May 18 21:58:43 * Morgan nods May 18 21:59:26 I suppose I never really thought what occurred in the time between my being born and Edward coming along May 18 21:59:57 After Edward I gave up on hoping for another. The ring guaranteed two healthy sons and safe deliveries. I assumed there would be no more May 18 22:00:26 * Morgan nods May 18 22:01:18 We would have liked to have a daughter, but it was not meant to be May 18 22:01:41 * Morgan nods May 18 22:02:07 can I be totally honest with you without you becoming guarded? May 18 22:02:43 * Adalbrecht nods, checking around. Edward and Molly are out of ear shot May 18 22:02:47 Yes May 18 22:03:21 I'm worried about how you will feel when you see Florrie. May 18 22:03:40 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:03:46 It will not be easy May 18 22:04:07 No... even seeing her regularly, it was still jarring each morning May 18 22:04:36 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:04:58 In time, that will change. She will become less like Jana as time goes on May 18 22:06:02 She's a very different little girl but... even so. I worry for Edward too, and mother May 18 22:07:01 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:07:28 Your Mother and I have those worries for you, Edward and Molly too May 18 22:07:58 I'm _mostly_ used to it... Molly too. May 18 22:08:28 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:08:45 It will be when you return from Capperlucia? May 18 22:10:15 I imagine so, yes. Her mind works differently to most and we don't want her getting overwhelmed meeting people. May 18 22:10:30 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:10:59 Is it likely her Mother May bring her to live in Eisen? May 18 22:12:10 Its not often I say this but... I just don't know. Where they are is safe, stable... somewhat more than they've had in the past... I think the best we can do is make it obvious she would be welcomed but not pressured May 18 22:15:19 Would you have them live in Gottkirchen with you if you could? May 18 22:16:05 That'd make sense. They'd be near someone familiar, but not a constant reminder to Mina, but close enough May 18 22:18:20 It would not be a constant reminder for you May 18 22:19:28 ? May 18 22:19:54 Perhaps. It lessens the more I got to know her May 18 22:20:42 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:21:20 I suppose it makes you more broody because of her looks May 18 22:21:39 I don't think so, no May 18 22:23:11 * Adalbrecht shrugs May 18 22:23:41 How do you think your brother is dealing with his fatherhood now? May 18 22:24:59 I think for the most part he is distracting himself with his fear over Mina. May 18 22:25:32 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:25:57 I hope she will arrive tomorrow as expected and we can resolve it May 18 22:26:35 I believe Edwards plan is to talk things over with her himself, but for Molly to be nearby May 18 22:27:04 Why Molly? May 18 22:28:09 for Mina. Its why I thought it best she come... you, me and Edward turning up looks quite intimidating, especially considering previous relationships... Molly being there softens that impression May 18 22:28:55 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:29:22 I hope it can be dealt with amicably May 18 22:29:28 * Morgan nods May 18 22:29:30 so do I May 18 22:30:52 Mina will always be welcomed in Sudlachenburg, but I had envisioned the four of you carrying us into the future May 18 22:31:06 * Morgan nods May 18 22:32:06 I'm hoping she can accept that Florries conception was during the time Edward thought there was no chance for them... he'd been forbidden from seeing her again May 18 22:33:46 I believe she was unaware of Hapsburg banishing him until recently May 18 22:33:54 * Morgan nods May 18 22:34:02 indeed... May 18 22:35:13 How does Molly think she will react? Women understand each other better than we understand them May 18 22:35:32 * Morgan shrugs May 18 22:35:35 she's no idea May 18 22:35:48 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:37:32 It's more of a mess than I anticipated May 18 22:37:56 * Morgan nods May 18 22:38:50 I've a talent for finding trouble to bring home May 18 22:39:34 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:39:39 You do May 18 22:40:13 * Morgan shrugs May 18 22:40:44 Bit of tough luck May 18 22:41:13 In what way? May 18 22:42:23 Take this instance... I would not trade having no trouble if it meant not knowing them, letting her know her family May 18 22:43:09 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:43:31 She is a surprise, not unwanted May 18 22:43:37 * Morgan nods May 18 22:45:37 Perhaps something similar will happen for you and Molly, and take the dilemma out of your hands May 18 22:46:31 * Morgan shrugs May 18 22:46:40 we'll have to wait and see May 18 22:46:47 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:47:08 I could pray for that for you, if you want May 18 22:47:32 That the issue is resolved for us? May 18 22:48:06 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:48:12 * Morgan nods slowly May 18 22:48:13 please May 18 22:48:20 * Adalbrecht nods May 18 22:48:27 I will do that May 18 22:49:05 thank you May 18 22:49:11 * Adalbrecht rides on, as do the others May 18 23:07:51 * Adalbrecht has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)