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Apr 03 17:49:55 That is beautiful. Does it also have the notes to explain it plainly? Apr 03 17:49:55 E: At the back, yes. Here, another cherry? Apr 03 17:51:56 *he gets to the parlour door* Apr 03 17:52:20 * Morgan opens it Apr 03 17:52:27 Just as well, its a bit beyond me Apr 03 17:53:26 **Edward has gotten the fire very warm. Varick is sat on the floor playing with some very old wooden building bricks. Molly is on the couch side on, her feet up, and Edward is sat on the floor next to her, a book in one hand and a bowl of cherries in the other. He seems to have taken his duty to look after her seriously, and looks more contented Apr 03 17:53:27 himself** Apr 03 17:53:27 /me takes a cherry, and Edward goes to the back of the book. Varick looks at Morgan "Papa, will you play with me?" Apr 03 17:54:23 * Morgan nods Apr 03 17:54:25 if you want me to Apr 03 17:55:45 * MollyK gives him a smile Apr 03 17:56:00 [are you well?] Apr 03 17:56:48 [Aye. Mother was making sure I'm alright with Florrie being around. She was asking if perhaps you'd spend some time with her soon] Apr 03 17:57:21 [I will shortly. It is nice she asked] Apr 03 17:57:26 Edward flicks the pages: Sonnet 27… 28… 29. "When my luck has failed and no-one gives me any sympathy, I sit all alone and cry about being an outcast, and bother the deaf ears of heaven with my useless cries; and examine myself and curse my fate, wishing that I was like someone with good prospects; or that I looked like another, or had friends like Apr 03 17:57:27 yet another, coveting this man’s skill, and that man’s range – totally dissatisfied with the things I usually enjoy. Yet, as I’m thinking these thoughts, almost believing myself despicable, I think of you by chance and then my soul, like the lark rising from the glum earth at daybreak, sings hymns at heaven’s gate. Because when I remember your Apr 03 17:57:27 sweet love, the thought brings such wealth that I’d then refuse to change places with kings." Apr 03 17:59:21 * Morgan watches Edward for a moment before sitting down with Varick Apr 03 18:00:12 * MollyK smiles "I like that one greatly. What thinks you, my love?" Edward eats a cherry, watching Morgan Apr 03 18:01:33 Its very good Apr 03 18:02:19 V: I still don't understand it, Papa Apr 03 18:03:59 I think its about man who thinks he is alone and miserable and has nothing, but then he thinks of someone and doing so makes him realise he is rich in love and would not trade places with anyone, even a rich king because that person makes him so happy Apr 03 18:04:37 Did you write that about Lady Hapsburg, Uncle Edward? Apr 03 18:04:41 V* Apr 03 18:05:40 E: *he smiles* No, in this instance I am the man envying the art of another! This is written by a famous playwright Apr 03 18:07:05 V: *he stacks some bricks* I am never going to fall in love Apr 03 18:10:14 We'll see Apr 03 18:10:41 * MollyK smiles "It really is not something you can control like that" Apr 03 18:10:55 E: If only it was! Apr 03 18:18:33 Life would be very boring Apr 03 18:18:47 * MollyK shakes her head, watching Morgan "I don't think that would be ideal" Apr 03 18:19:42 * Morgan nods Apr 03 18:20:03 [I was talking to mother about the balm. She asked me what it smells like to me] Apr 03 18:20:44 [Lavender with cinnamon, I believe?] Apr 03 18:21:11 [More or less... starting to get hints of rosewater now] Apr 03 18:21:37 * MollyK starts to smile warmly, just watching him Apr 03 18:21:52 [that is very touching, my love] Apr 03 18:22:25 *Edward watches her, then Morgan, smirking* Apr 03 18:23:34 Shush, Edward. I _tried_ poetry, but it always comes out as a song Apr 03 18:26:28 E: Now that I would like to hear Apr 03 18:26:42 * Morgan shrugs Apr 03 18:26:46 you heard one yesterday Apr 03 18:27:50 * MollyK is still smiling, looking thoughtful Apr 03 18:27:53 * Morgan looks at his brother Apr 03 18:27:57 unless you are being sarcastic... Apr 03 18:28:05 E: you wrote that? Apr 03 18:28:30 * Morgan nods Apr 03 18:29:08 * MollyK looks impressed Apr 03 18:29:11 E* Apr 03 18:29:24 E: for Molly? Apr 03 18:30:14 Some of it Apr 03 18:31:46 E: Very good.*he looks to Molly, smiling * You are his muse then? Apr 03 18:32:35 * MollyK smiles back "I certainly aim to a_muse_ him!" Apr 03 18:33:16 *Edward laughs* I'm sure you do Apr 03 18:35:00 someones been spending too much time with HeinzHarold Apr 03 18:35:28 V: Sometimes Mama calls him her little cabbage! *Molly blushes at this, even knowing Edward already knows* Apr 03 18:36:26 * Morgan looks at Edward Apr 03 18:36:34 did you know there's a cabbage called a Vendel Ballhead? Apr 03 18:36:56 *he laughs * I did not Apr 03 18:37:56 * Morgan nods Apr 03 18:38:08 you daughter now refers to me as bullhead... completely unironically. Apr 03 18:38:40 ballhead* Apr 03 18:39:11 *Edward laughs hard* Apr 03 18:39:25 V: why is that so funny? Apr 03 18:39:44 Yes, Edward, why is that so funny? Apr 03 18:41:02 E: Ah, well... *there is a knock at the door, and Edward looks ridiculously grateful as he springs up to open it* Apr 03 18:41:31 [Thank goodness Edward does not know your other nickname] Apr 03 18:41:50 [indeed] Apr 03 18:42:20 E: Your uniform is here for tomorrow, brother Apr 03 18:42:54 * Morgan nods Apr 03 18:43:30 thank you... just hang it somewhere would you? I'm a little busy Apr 03 18:44:06 * MollyK stands up, brushing off her skirt "I should find your Mother, liebling" Apr 03 18:44:18 * Morgan nods Apr 03 18:44:24 alright blossom Apr 03 18:45:00 *Edward dismisses the servant, taking the uniform out of the parlour. She kisses his cheek* Apr 03 18:45:43 I will see you later, my love Apr 03 18:46:58 * Morgan nods Apr 03 18:48:14 * MollyK goes out. A minute later Edward comes back Apr 03 18:48:20 * MollyK is now known as Edward Apr 03 18:50:08 * Edward brings the cherries to Morgan Apr 03 18:51:07 How are you? Apr 03 18:51:34 I'm alright Apr 03 18:51:49 And Mother? Apr 03 18:53:32 Better than I expected Apr 03 18:54:14 * Edward looks relieved Apr 03 18:54:28 Is she very disappointed? Apr 03 18:59:03 Its hard to say... it has not occurred the way we would have wanted, was her wording... but she's sad for the time you've missed with her Apr 03 19:00:34 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:00:41 That is better than I expected Apr 03 19:04:49 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:06:13 What does she want me to do about Mina? Apr 03 19:06:50 Exactly what you've already chosen to do Apr 03 19:07:03 * Edward looks even more relieved Apr 03 19:07:48 You'd have done whatever she asked, wouldn't you? Apr 03 19:08:04 I did not want to disappoint her any more than I already have... but no. Apr 03 19:08:24 no? Apr 03 19:08:33 * Edward shakes his head Apr 03 19:10:26 What I felt last night after you had laid out the reasons why not wedding Mina would be a bad choice for Sudlachenburg, I felt relief. If Mina no longer wants me, I will accept it, but I am relieved that I will not be the one to end it Apr 03 19:10:57 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:11:55 I would have had to refuse Mother's request Apr 03 19:12:12 * Edward offers the bowl to Morgan Apr 03 19:12:56 * Morgan shakes his head Apr 03 19:13:50 Would you, if Mother had said not to marry Molly? Apr 03 19:15:22 I don't know Apr 03 19:15:54 * Edward smiles faintly Apr 03 19:16:00 I see Apr 03 19:17:40 I don't really do what ifs Apr 03 19:18:26 We may have finally found a comparable situation where I would rebel and you would conform where our parents are concerned. Apr 03 19:18:57 * Morgan shrugs Apr 03 19:19:14 There are many theories as to why I rebel in any given situation... Apr 03 19:19:30 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:19:38 I am sure there are Apr 03 19:19:58 I don't know that defying mothers express wish would happen though... Apr 03 19:20:08 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:20:49 I would find it almost impossible with Father. But your arguments were too strong. Apr 03 19:22:11 * Morgan smiles slightly Apr 03 19:22:16 I'd been putting it off all day Apr 03 19:22:33 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:22:51 A hard conversation was always coming Apr 03 19:23:38 I knew we needed to stand together on it before we spoke to father Apr 03 19:23:45 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:24:25 There was a good chance Father would not have listened to logic Apr 03 19:25:07 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:25:35 That reminds me, actually, I need to speak to him Apr 03 19:25:45 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:26:01 I can take Varick to collect my uniform Apr 03 19:26:07 If you're sure? Apr 03 19:26:13 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:26:27 Meet us there and I will show you the finished painting Apr 03 19:26:32 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:26:34 I'd like that Apr 03 19:27:04 What you said about Mother's wishes... is that why you kept them in the dark last time? Apr 03 19:28:28 I don't think I'd thought of it like that but... probably Apr 03 19:28:38 * Edward nods Apr 03 19:30:14 We will meet at my room then Apr 03 19:30:35 * Morgan nods, ruffling Varicks hair Apr 03 19:30:41 I'll see you in a little while, alright? Apr 03 19:30:58 *Varick nods, concentrating on the blocks* Apr 03 19:31:13 * Morgan carefully gets up, nodding to Edward before heading off to find his father Apr 03 19:31:26 * Edward is now known as Adalbrecht Apr 03 19:31:41 * Adalbrecht is in his study and calls for him to come in Apr 03 19:32:02 * Morgan looks at him for a moment before smiling Apr 03 19:32:04 got any coffee? Apr 03 19:32:11 * Adalbrecht is sat at his desk sealing something Apr 03 19:32:18 No, ring for some Apr 03 19:32:30 * Morgan smirks, ringing the bell Apr 03 19:32:35 Whats that? Apr 03 19:32:58 An instruction to the bank about Edward's increased allowance Apr 03 19:33:26 * Morgan nods, pointing at a chair Apr 03 19:33:28 may I? Apr 03 19:34:20 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:34:32 * Morgan sits down, waiting for his father to finish Apr 03 19:34:59 *the coffee comes before Adalbrecht has fully cleared his desk* Apr 03 19:35:18 * Adalbrecht sips some Apr 03 19:35:26 What is on your mind, Morgan? Apr 03 19:35:58 I'm only halfway through telling David about his heritage... he has not reacted well. Would you be terribly upset if I punched him in the mouth? Apr 03 19:36:31 Yes. Memorial Day is tomorrow and people will be looking at him. Apr 03 19:36:37 * Adalbrecht is completely deadpan Apr 03 19:36:43 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:37:13 I'll wait a day then. He has hurt Molly. I'm going to explain that to him in a calm manner and if his actions are not suitable, I'm going to belt him Apr 03 19:37:24 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:37:47 Though really, you should be calling him out instead. Apr 03 19:38:28 I'd like to avoid that. I want to mend the hurt, not cause more... but if I must, I will... hit him with a glove, isn't it? Apr 03 19:38:39 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:39:00 Without your hand in it, if you please. Apr 03 19:39:08 * Morgan shrugs Apr 03 19:39:11 it'd save time... Apr 03 19:39:29 Is she in significant distress? Apr 03 19:40:24 She is very hurt.. but in a departure to my normal style, I'm going to tell him what the issue is, to see if he is willing to try to fix it Apr 03 19:40:35 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:40:50 Are you asking my approval? Apr 03 19:41:09 I'd rather have it... but I'm more trying to assure you I am not aiming to disappoint you Apr 03 19:41:18 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:41:38 I appreciate that. Do you need the balm, your Mother has it. Apr 03 19:42:38 I have it... she and I have spoken Apr 03 19:42:59 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:43:19 She mentioned that she wanted to check on your wellbeing Apr 03 19:43:40 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:44:17 thoughtful of her Apr 03 19:44:24 * Adalbrecht smiles Apr 03 19:44:33 She is a very thoughtful woman Apr 03 19:44:47 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:44:51 how did she take the news? Apr 03 19:45:01 She was very upset Apr 03 19:45:38 Edward is terrified of disappointing her Apr 03 19:45:44 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:46:07 Her reaction is not the same as ours, knowing only what she knows Apr 03 19:46:19 * Morgan looks confused Apr 03 19:47:29 She doesn't know his role in the fire. She does not have the disappointment of that already. Apr 03 19:47:57 And she wont Apr 03 19:48:32 No. If it ever reaches her there will be trouble for whoever has told her Apr 03 19:48:47 * Morgan nods Apr 03 19:49:00 * Morgan looks at his father speculatively Apr 03 19:49:13 * Adalbrecht watches him Apr 03 19:49:15 Yes? Apr 03 19:49:26 Somethings bothering me and I'm wondering how best to broach it Apr 03 19:50:10 Plainly, for the love of God. We have had enough strain already today, and we all need time to prepare ourselves mentally for tomorrow Apr 03 19:53:15 I am hurting at how quickly you jump to being disappointing and disapproving of me Apr 03 19:53:42 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 19:53:50 I am sorry. Apr 03 19:54:38 I don't want you to be sorry. I want to understand, I want to be someone you are proud of. Apr 03 19:55:06 You are, Morgan. I am proud of you. Apr 03 19:55:58 * Morgan nods slowly Apr 03 19:56:35 It feels like... you are proud of me but... I am a constant disappointment. Apr 03 19:57:15 I will not always agree with your decisions and choices, just as you never will mine. That does not mean you are a disappointment or I am not proud of you. Apr 03 19:58:11 That is how it seems... how it feels. I suppose I may be saying it through a filter of the past. Apr 03 19:59:21 You asked me earlier to put my disappointment in Edward's action then aside. But I wonder that, rightly, you are not putting aside yours in me. Apr 03 20:00:22 * Morgan stares at the desk for a moment, chewing on the side of his thumb Apr 03 20:01:31 I am not hurt by that, Morgan. As the admiral, if a captain takes his ship off the planned route, the responsibility ultimately stops with me. Apr 03 20:01:54 * Morgan shakes his head slightly before smiling Apr 03 20:02:02 I thought you'd like that analogy Apr 03 20:02:30 More than I imagine you now are! *he smiles, sipping his coffee* Apr 03 20:03:27 I am sorry for the pain and trouble I caused you. All of you. Apr 03 20:04:18 I am sorry you could not come to me in advance so we could work out something mutually agreeable. Apr 03 20:04:52 * Morgan nods Apr 03 20:05:07 Out of interest... did you realise I was goading you? Apr 03 20:05:23 This morning? Apr 03 20:05:28 * Morgan nods Apr 03 20:06:22 I knew you were being particularly quarrelsome, and suspected it was intentional. I had not assigned a motive as such Apr 03 20:06:53 * Morgan nods Apr 03 20:07:08 While I was not wanting your disappointment, I was _definitely_ courting your anger Apr 03 20:07:25 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 20:07:33 It was cleverly done Apr 03 20:08:00 * Morgan inclines his head Apr 03 20:08:06 You understand why I did it? Apr 03 20:08:46 To place me into a position where I could not be too harsh on Edward without looking like an ass. Apr 03 20:09:43 A little... mostly because that initial burst of white hot anger is impossible to sustain Apr 03 20:10:06 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 20:11:06 I am still very unhappy with Edward's conduct, but I do see my own role in him coming to the point of having an illegitimate child Apr 03 20:12:24 You can be very unhappy with his conduct... he and I expected no less. My concern was to divert your initial rage so that you would not lay it on him. *he rubs his face* I've done a lot of being shouted at by angry people the last couple of days. Apr 03 20:12:48 * Adalbrecht frowns Apr 03 20:12:56 Are you and Molly at odds? Apr 03 20:13:42 No, not at all. She is hurting, but I was referring to Edward. I honestly thought I was going to catch a fist to the face last night Apr 03 20:14:13 I would have been spared the expense of fixing it at least Apr 03 20:14:34 Would've been my own fault Apr 03 20:14:58 He did not know about the child until last night? Apr 03 20:15:49 * Morgan eyes up his father a moment Apr 03 20:16:30 He knew... until last night he was adamant he would put aside Mina and try to marry Alice... which she has no interest in. I was trying to get him to see sense Apr 03 20:17:31 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 20:17:55 He did not respond well? Apr 03 20:18:35 No. Apr 03 20:19:15 He seems this morning very set in Mina, which I am glad about Apr 03 20:19:30 Its difficult to argue against your own logic I suppose Apr 03 20:19:44 How did you do it? Apr 03 20:19:50 * Adalbrecht sips his coffee Apr 03 20:19:56 * Morgan shrugs Apr 03 20:20:34 I told him to consider the impact of cancelling a well known wedding so close to the ceremony, one that the Eisenfurst was invited to. What it would do to our reputation. To Mina's. Apr 03 20:21:02 He was convinced you were going to banish him. He asked me to consider letting him run Foxcroft once uncle Christopher passes Apr 03 20:23:22 I cannot say the thought did not cross my mind. But I knew he was in houses of ill-repute, and it was I who told him about the Vaticine Method, so I am also to blame for the conception Apr 03 20:24:22 Another reason I took the brunt of your ire... I am aware you are, rightfully or not, harsher with Edward than with me Apr 03 20:26:09 I am harsher with Edward because he has been given many more chances than you, and you are the one who has borne the biggest burden of the consequences Apr 03 20:27:45 I don't think you realise the torment he punishes himself with. As I said earlier, nothing you do could be worse than what he puts himself through. He strives for your approval but sees himself as a screw up. Apr 03 20:28:33 And until we came to Fischler in August, you would have agreed. Apr 03 20:29:48 I'm not saying I didn't. What I'm saying is that he has made awful decisions... but he is trying, harder than ever, to make amends. He needs our help and our guidance to do that. I think it would mean the world to him if you stopped expecting him to mess things up. Apr 03 20:31:18 Three times now he has done something my Father would have whipped him and cast him out for, if not outright had him executed. One day you will feel the weight of being the Graf and asking yourself What Would Father Do? Apr 03 20:31:43 * Morgan smiles slightly Apr 03 20:33:51 I ask what my father would do regularly. Perhaps the changing times require you... _us_ to change also. You've heard why he told Alarice to get rid of the child, what she would have required... after he was _forced_ to father it. As for what happened in Numa, well... his whole world had fallen down around him. Apr 03 20:35:24 He had brought that on himself at least partly. Apr 03 20:35:31 * Morgan nods Apr 03 20:35:55 undoubtedly. And so had I... and so did you. Do you know what kind of man Karsten was? I mean really was Apr 03 20:36:21 You did tell me after you had discovered his annexation plot Apr 03 20:37:06 I will leave you his diary... I think it would help you to know what sort of man had influence over your son. Apr 03 20:37:19 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 20:37:24 I dread to think Apr 03 20:38:12 The fact that he acted thinking there were no other options rather than out of cruelty speaks volumes as to the sort of person Edward is. It would've been very easy to have become so utterly polluted by Karsten. Apr 03 20:38:34 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 20:38:48 And I am glad he did not. Your Mother reminded me earlier that Edward was only twenty years old when he and his mistress created their child, and that at twenty I was a love-struck sailor who preferred the idea of getting killed in a War than face his feelings. Apr 03 20:39:02 * Morgan nods Apr 03 20:41:13 He was only seventeen when he started currying favour with our allies at Court. Much as the eventual outcome was despicable, I do admire his courage and sense of duty in that. Apr 03 20:41:30 * Morgan looks at his father solemnly Apr 03 20:41:40 You agree that his greatest trespass was against me? Apr 03 20:41:53 I do Apr 03 20:42:23 I have forgiven him. If I can, given what was taken from me, can you not? Isn't it time? Apr 03 20:42:57 I do not have the forgiving nature you have gotten from the Hockridges Apr 03 20:45:14 I did not get it from them. I did not forgive him because it is my nature... because it really isn't. Its a choice I made, for a hundred reasons. Its a choice that lays before you. In the years from now, what sort of man do you want to be remembered as? The bitter, grudge holding type? Or the sort who makes a conscious choice to forgive someone, to rebuild? Apr 03 20:46:02 I want to be remembered as a good man. Apr 03 20:46:56 And which course of action would a good man take? Apr 03 20:47:47 I need to be able to trust that Edward has learnt from all of this, with Alarice and the pregnancy, with Dietlinde and Jana, and with his daughter. If I forgive these trespasses, what happens when he goes off the rails again? Apr 03 20:49:42 I understand. In the time since the fire, he has done what? Spent all his time trying to keep Sudlachenburg safe, strong... He was there for me when Molly was poisoned. *he looks at his father* He had concerns about her status too... he swore to protect her. Did you know that? Apr 03 20:50:57 He has spent much of that time drinking and whoring and overspending on his accounts. But I agree that he was good to you in Fischler, and I think that his situation with Mina has been a turning point for you both Apr 03 20:51:59 If he finds out I told you this, he'd kill me... but his time in the brothels wasn't what you assume. Apr 03 20:52:52 * Adalbrecht looks at him Apr 03 20:53:04 I do know what happens in brothels, Morgan. Apr 03 20:53:10 * Morgan nods Apr 03 20:53:15 and he wasn't doing that Apr 03 20:53:39 Of course he was. He is a man. Apr 03 20:54:54 No... he enjoys being around women, they are... easier to speak with... the women in those places are quite happy to play cards, tell stories... he had their company but not their _company_ Apr 03 20:55:56 This is what he has told you? I have heard differently from Yensid Apr 03 20:56:23 Perhaps in the start he was, as you so eloquently put it, whoring... but he is past that Apr 03 20:57:00 Because he is now going to, Theus willing, marry Mina? Apr 03 20:58:06 Even when he thought that was beyond hope... He had stopped enjoying it, it was not who he wanted it to be so just... stopped. Apr 03 21:00:55 * Adalbrecht has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Apr 03 21:07:11 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Apr 03 21:07:32 It will stand him in good stead for the times when his wife is increasing. *he sips his coffee. There's no indication that Adalbrecht is not genuine and serious * Apr 03 21:07:42 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht Apr 03 21:08:50 * Morgan nods Apr 03 21:10:22 I want to believe that Edward will settle down and be the responsible family man he is capable of being Apr 03 21:11:05 If you did not believe that somewhere in your self, you would not have allowed him to propose to Mina Apr 03 21:11:26 You are not the sort of man who would bind a woman to him to find out if he is capable of being the man you hope Apr 03 21:14:24 * Adalbrecht has quit (Read error: EOF from client) Apr 03 21:23:32 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Apr 03 21:24:05 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht Apr 03 21:24:34 If my memory serves, that was rather a done deal before Edward and I arrived in Fischler Apr 03 21:30:26 * Adalbrecht has quit (Ping Timeout) Apr 03 21:35:51 * MollyK (~igloo@CrystabllesiPad.lan) has joined Apr 03 21:36:05 [21:16:18] Adalbrecht: If my memory serves, that was rather a done deal before Edward and I arrived in Fischler Apr 03 21:37:08 You might have a point there... but you wouldn't be allowing him to marry her now if you thought that way Apr 03 21:42:18 I suppose not Apr 03 21:42:29 * MollyK is now known as Adalbrecht Apr 03 21:42:48 That suggests to me that your worry isn't as deep seated as you think Apr 03 21:46:03 Until this latest news, I would have agreed about him progress, but this was unexpected Apr 03 21:46:45 take into account that it happened very close, time wise... to my mind it is part of the same period of time Apr 03 21:48:47 Does that not worsen it? Whilst you were grieving them and your Mother and I had no idea where our sons were or when they would return, Edward was meeting and sleeping with women? Apr 03 21:49:19 * Morgan shakes his head Apr 03 21:50:23 I can understand why it'd feel that way... but he wasn't gallivanting around having fun. He was in the middle of a self destructive path. Apr 03 21:52:20 His approach to the intimacy shared with women is not something I can easily understand Apr 03 21:52:40 * Morgan nods Apr 03 21:53:41 I've seen him in a brothel in the company of those women... he is charming, funny, relaxed... they have no expectation of him, and when he's not on edge, he's the same with Molly. He likes their company, their gentle personalities... Apr 03 21:54:02 * Adalbrecht looks at him Apr 03 21:54:15 Why were you in a brothel? Apr 03 21:55:09 I was worried he was on another path of self destruction. I went to find him, to keep him safe. *he smiles slightly* I've been in several since I married Molly... and not a single time for the purpose the place is intended Apr 03 21:56:00 I should hope not! A pretty young wife like Molly should give you no reason for such things Apr 03 21:56:49 * Morgan smiles slightly, sipping his coffee before closing his eyes Apr 03 21:56:58 I'm fairly sure Maubourg makes his coffee with mud Apr 03 21:57:22 I can't stand him Apr 03 21:57:41 * Morgan nods, opening his eyes Apr 03 21:58:02 I wonder if we should start asking ourselves what he would do, and not do that Apr 03 22:00:24 * Adalbrecht shrugs Apr 03 22:00:41 He has behaved reasonably over you taking the Grafdom Apr 03 22:01:10 visibly, yes... there is also an overseer to make sure he doesn't sabotage the place... Apr 03 22:01:17 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:01:40 Have you considered all the work that will be needed to bring his house up to standard? Apr 03 22:01:56 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:02:27 Edwards old commander knows some people who can help but... we're considering letting Maubourg stay there, since its his home, and we find somewhere more suited to our tastes Apr 03 22:04:58 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:05:08 I would consider that in your shoes too Apr 03 22:06:46 * Morgan sips his coffee Apr 03 22:07:21 Will you make the choice to forgive him? To stop holding him to an expectation of repeating his past mistakes? Apr 03 22:08:05 I will try. Will that do? Apr 03 22:08:23 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:08:41 I know that is a big concession, and I appreciate it. Apr 03 22:08:48 * Adalbrecht smiles Apr 03 22:09:48 Do you remember the night in Fischler that Molly had been able to join everyone for dinner, and you and I had a long talk? It was the night I said she did not understand how fundamentally significant she was to you Apr 03 22:10:08 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:10:09 I do Apr 03 22:13:35 I said I would love for you and Edward to have the sort of relationship Hans and I had, and you said you couldn't guarantee that? Apr 03 22:14:25 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:14:51 I think you are very close to it Apr 03 22:15:03 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:15:22 I'm inclined to agree Apr 03 22:15:41 I am pleased for you, Morgan Apr 03 22:16:12 * Morgan nods, sipping his coffee Apr 03 22:16:39 * Adalbrecht sips his too Apr 03 22:17:08 so am I. Its been painful getting to where we are, but it has been worth the effort. I would very much like you to join us in how close we are Apr 03 22:17:20 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:17:52 It would be nice to have things as easy as they used to be Apr 03 22:18:25 I wish you could see how we are when there is no-one else around... when there are no expectations to live up to Apr 03 22:18:40 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:19:11 Let's do something the three of us Apr 03 22:19:23 Funny you should say that... I was thinking we could go hunting Apr 03 22:19:30 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:19:44 I would like that Apr 03 22:19:52 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:20:02 I'll suggest it to Edward Apr 03 22:20:07 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:20:34 You remind me of Hans sometimes. You are more like him than like me Apr 03 22:20:44 You think so? Apr 03 22:21:57 If we could wind back the time, you could see him in here, shouting at your Grandfather about his behaviour towards me in that year he wouldn't speak to me at all Apr 03 22:22:26 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:22:47 I think he was too hard on you... as you are on Edward. Apr 03 22:22:53 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:23:12 We repeat the mistakes of our parents even when we vow we won't Apr 03 22:23:41 * Adalbrecht sips his coffee Apr 03 22:24:01 You are aware of it now... you can choose not to Apr 03 22:24:11 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:24:15 I know Apr 03 22:26:37 I cannot tell you how hard it was to leave your Mother here after six months of marriage, knowing she was likely carrying you, and having to go back to sea. Apr 03 22:26:56 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:27:18 I would imagine so... you had a tough time aboard? Apr 03 22:28:41 I missed her dreadfully, even moment. But knowing she was here and they wouldn't speak to her... Hans was posted more locally, so he stayed when he could and spent time with her. Apr 03 22:29:05 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:29:07 Good of him Apr 03 22:29:24 They got on well. Like Molly and Edward actually Apr 03 22:29:41 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:30:27 I am very pleased at their closeness Apr 03 22:30:51 That must have taken a great deal of trust Apr 03 22:31:46 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:32:32 * Adalbrecht smiles "Has he forgotten Molly said she would stab him if he did anything that hurt you?" Apr 03 22:32:47 I doubt it Apr 03 22:33:29 I was sceptical at the time, but now that we know more about her heritage it is less surprising Apr 03 22:34:06 You're not the first to say that... Claudia is convinced her aptitude with a sword is down to her bloodline Apr 03 22:34:27 She is doing well? Apr 03 22:34:42 Claudia has declared she'd happily have her at her back Apr 03 22:34:52 * Adalbrecht looks surprised Apr 03 22:35:06 Well then, I think we need to see this Apr 03 22:35:41 I've already practiced with a zweihander today, so I think you'd have to face her yourself... Apr 03 22:36:06 It has been quite some time since I have done that Apr 03 22:36:14 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:36:19 Edward and I were sparring with them Apr 03 22:36:33 Did you enjoy yourselves? Apr 03 22:36:48 as much as you can do swinging those things about Apr 03 22:36:56 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:37:49 The day she broke my door frame, I asked you if the family had any Eisen blood. I think you said it wouldn't surprise you Apr 03 22:38:06 * Morgan laughs Apr 03 22:38:16 makes some more sense now doesn't it Apr 03 22:38:22 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:39:03 Strange that you married a woman less Avalonian than I did Apr 03 22:39:54 I might have considered that recently Apr 03 22:40:28 Do you have very fiery rows? Apr 03 22:40:56 No. Apr 03 22:41:45 Your Mother and I never have either. All our arguments have been quiet Apr 03 22:43:03 Intense disagreements, I think Apr 03 22:43:15 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:43:34 We have had many over the year Apr 03 22:43:41 Years* Apr 03 22:44:59 Well, you are ancient Apr 03 22:46:24 You are not so young yourself now. Did you do anything nice for your birthday? *It had certainly started well, Molly waking him with her mouth* Apr 03 22:46:49 * Morgan laughs Apr 03 22:47:06 Varick was looking through my sketches, asking if any were done in the fifteen hundreds. Apr 03 22:48:01 * Adalbrecht laughs Apr 03 22:48:28 My birthday... I was barely back from hunting a rapist across Avalon. We didn't do much really, those we left in Tawstock knitted me a scarf Apr 03 22:48:47 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:49:29 That's nice, knitting is a val-... a _rapist_? Apr 03 22:50:14 no, knitting is not a rapist... Apr 03 22:50:29 * Adalbrecht just looks at him Apr 03 22:51:36 Are you sure you want to know? Apr 03 22:52:55 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 22:53:07 You recall I asked about Colonel Dau? Apr 03 22:53:31 I recall he wrote to your Mother without prior acquaintance about Molly Apr 03 22:53:42 * Morgan nods Apr 03 22:55:46 He wanted Molly. Even before she and I were particularly open about our interest in eachother. One evening, in a rage, she was taken to her room by an acquaintance to keep her from Dau... he went into the towns brothel and... picked a girl who looked like Molly. He did unspeakable things to her, calling her by Molly's name. She fell pregnant. She was so damaged she bled anytime she relieved herself, and she could not really control that Apr 03 22:56:41 * Adalbrecht looks harrowed Apr 03 22:57:15 I have dealt with men like that before. What happened to her? Apr 03 22:59:26 The damage was significant. The local doctor said there was no chance of survival. I had her seen by Lady Torrington doctor, and he agreed. After the closest we've ever come to a blazing row, Molly agreed that the only hope she had was to deliver the baby to cutting it out, rather than try to birth it naturally. One of Lady Torringtons fathers friends was there, a doctor who had actually done the procedure where the patient survived before ((mtf)) Apr 03 23:00:10 so he offered his services. HeinzHarold held Elsie's hand, and I was more or less a dogsbody, doing or fetching what was needed. Elsie and the child survived. Apr 03 23:00:29 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:00:33 And Dau? Apr 03 23:00:56 I chased him the length of Avalon, dragged him back to Tawstock to face the court and justice Apr 03 23:01:11 * Adalbrecht looks surprised Apr 03 23:01:26 You did not deal with him personally? Apr 03 23:02:08 It helped Lady Torrington reconnect with her people, show she was not an absent figure whose guests run amok any longer Apr 03 23:02:15 * Morgan watches his father seriously Apr 03 23:02:21 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:03:27 Thinking like a Graf. Apr 03 23:03:33 I... was scared of the man I'd become if I let myself deal with him. Apr 03 23:03:45 * Adalbrecht nods solemnly Apr 03 23:04:07 Now that I do understand. Apr 03 23:04:19 * Morgan nods, looking a little upset Apr 03 23:05:08 * Adalbrecht gets up from the desk, coming to Morgan with open arms, completely in contradiction to his behaviour earlier with Edward Apr 03 23:05:25 * Morgan stands, hugging him Apr 03 23:05:53 All I could see is how upset Varick would be, if he ever thought I could be so cruel Apr 03 23:06:11 It was personal for you, because he used Molly's name and the girl looked like her Apr 03 23:08:09 He'd have done the same to her if he'd had chance. As we were getting ready to leave after we caught him, thats when Claudia spotted Florrie. But yes, thats what I was doing, and why my birthday was quiet. I went to check on him, then had a quiet day at the Torrington estate. I just wish I'd seen James knitting. Apr 03 23:08:31 * Adalbrecht lets him go Apr 03 23:08:56 That is your one-armed friend from Innesbruck? Apr 03 23:09:59 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:10:05 he's only got one arm because of me Apr 03 23:10:19 A strange way to start a friendship Apr 03 23:10:29 * Adalbrecht goes back to his seat Apr 03 23:10:54 he was on the opposite side during the war... I got caught where I shouldn't have been as far as they were concerned and had to take steps to get out Apr 03 23:11:05 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:11:33 It happened. So many deaths and injuries Apr 03 23:12:06 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:12:38 I rescued his mother from her abusive brother and reunited her with her son... we've gotten on rather well since then. Apr 03 23:12:49 * Adalbrecht smiles Apr 03 23:13:44 * Morgan sits down, sipping his coffee again Apr 03 23:13:50 Have you ever heard of "the shoes of salt" as a punishment on board a ship? Apr 03 23:14:22 I've heard of it but couldn't say I know what it is Apr 03 23:15:08 The bottom of the feet are whipped until they bleed, then the man is made to walk through salt water. Apr 03 23:15:55 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:15:58 painful Apr 03 23:16:31 That was how we used to deal with any rapists. To my knowledge it never happened until my platoon did it Apr 03 23:17:26 You must've despised them Apr 03 23:21:58 Always. I was very sheltered, and I did not know the process of sex until I had to learn it about six weeks after I joined the War. Your Grandfather said I wouldn't need to know until my wedding day. Yensid was seeing a girl who was following the drum with her brother. One of the platoon caught her alone and raped her. She was badly hurt and Apr 03 23:21:58 didn't survive. He and I found her. Our Captain let Yensid pick a punishment, and then after three days of that, we still keelhauled him. Apr 03 23:23:26 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:23:33 Yensid surprises me sometimes Apr 03 23:23:40 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:23:49 He is excellent at what he does Apr 03 23:23:58 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:24:01 He is Apr 03 23:25:25 He's very smart. You wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for him Apr 03 23:25:40 no? Apr 03 23:25:54 He saved me on the battlefield many times Apr 03 23:26:34 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:27:50 There's something about him that disgusts people, but it is similar to how people think Heinzharold is stupid Apr 03 23:29:29 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:29:42 Dislike him as I do, I cant help but respect his abilities Apr 03 23:30:58 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:31:11 I would trust him with my life Apr 03 23:32:23 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:33:16 Have you seen to your uniform for tomorrow? Apr 03 23:34:51 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:34:54 all ready Apr 03 23:35:10 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:35:38 There has never been a Memorial Day where both you and Edward have been in Sudlachenburg Apr 03 23:35:50 * Morgan shakes his head Apr 03 23:35:54 I know Apr 03 23:37:17 It has been a long time since I saw you both in uniform together Apr 03 23:38:06 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:38:26 That reminds me, I'm supposed to meet him... he was going to show me a painting Apr 03 23:38:41 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:39:10 He has been working on that one of Molly for weeks, maybe he has finally finished it Apr 03 23:39:36 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:39:47 I hope so. He's very good Apr 03 23:41:08 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:41:29 Just like you with your sketching Apr 03 23:41:49 * Morgan shrugs Apr 03 23:42:05 If I can find a guitar, maybe I'll play the songs I've written for you and mother Apr 03 23:42:37 I can send someone to the village to borrow one Apr 03 23:42:56 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:43:03 if you'd like to hear them of course Apr 03 23:43:10 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:44:01 We would. After dinner would be nice. Memorial Day Eve is often a long night, I know it is for Edward too. Apr 03 23:44:09 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:44:17 We'll help him through it Apr 03 23:45:06 If it is like sixty eight, he will drink himself to sleep by about three Apr 03 23:45:32 We'll see Apr 03 23:46:08 Maybe Molly might have some herbs to help him sleep, or he could use your balm? Apr 03 23:46:33 of course he can... I'll talk to Molly about the herbs Apr 03 23:46:44 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:47:36 You should take some yourself if she can Apr 03 23:48:35 They dont do me much good... I've even tried some specially made from Vodacce Apr 03 23:48:51 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:50:47 I have never found anything that takes away the nightmare that loops unfortunately Apr 03 23:51:18 Maybe you should try the herbs Apr 03 23:51:30 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:51:43 It is infrequent, but tonight I might Apr 03 23:51:52 I'll talk to Molly Apr 03 23:51:57 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:52:05 I'd appreciate that Apr 03 23:52:55 Do you want Forrester inviting for dinner? Apr 03 23:53:52 I don't know. I think maybe he needs time to adjust Apr 03 23:53:59 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:54:21 Not tonight then. Will you and Molly join us, I haven't seen her yet Apr 03 23:54:30 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:54:36 aye Apr 03 23:54:49 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:55:06 I'll let you get back to your brother then Apr 03 23:55:27 Thank you for taking the time to talk with me Apr 03 23:55:38 * Adalbrecht smiles Apr 03 23:55:55 You don't need to thank me for that, my son Apr 03 23:56:53 * Morgan nods, standing up Apr 03 23:57:01 I'll talk to Edward about going hunting Apr 03 23:57:12 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:57:54 It's a bit late today, and tomorrow none of us are likely to be in the mood, so perhaps on sunday Apr 03 23:58:13 * Morgan nods Apr 03 23:58:19 I'll keep that in mind Apr 03 23:59:00 * Adalbrecht nods Apr 03 23:59:12 See you at dinner. Don't be late. Apr 03 23:59:17 * Adalbrecht smiles Apr 03 23:59:24 * Morgan smiles slightly Apr 03 23:59:27 I make no promises on that Apr 03 23:59:34 * Morgan opens the door Apr 03 23:59:48 * Adalbrecht laughs quietly to himself